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Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by amoss on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:00PM (#36198275)
The reddit link is just an empty page with another link. It would be better to use https://openlsr.org/sail-7b
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by dang on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:13PM (#36198466)
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by donpark on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:10PM (#36198419)
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by mewpmewp2 on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:16PM (#36198519)
A bit misleading to say ChatGPT, when GPT-4 according to the metrics there seem to outpeform it?
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by amilios on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:17PM (#36198537)
At this point a lot of people use "ChatGPT" to refer to the ChatGPT model with the GPT-3.5 backend
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by mewpmewp2 on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:20PM (#36198593)
To me it's a collection of both, so the title makes it sound that it performs better than GPT-4. I don't know who those people are exactly who only hold GPT-3.5 to that meaning.
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by generalizations on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:33PM (#36198831)
Probably the free users.
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by circuit10 on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:04PM (#36199384)
I imagine the paid users are a minority, so almost everyone
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by mewpmewp2 on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:15PM (#36199552)
Even in Hackerrank and amongst technical people whom the article I would imagine is directed to?
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by TeMPOraL on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:18PM (#36199587)
And a lot of people don't. In particular, all the stories in the media about ChatGPT's unexpectedly good performance at various tasks, are more likely than not to be about GPT-4 model.

This is a legitimate point of confusion, and it's best to keep it explicit which model is being discussed. Really should be written at the start of the text.

Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by hyluo on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:54PM (#36216603)
Thanks! will replace "chatgpt" with "gpt-3.5-turbo".
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by jmiskovic on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:42PM (#36199008)
Demo isn't really connected to the model, no way to test it out. Last commit was two weeks ago.

Did anyone reproduce the outlined steps? If this thing can be stronger than GPT-3.5 at 7B parameters (which I find unlikely), it would make bigger splash than it did.

Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by hyluo on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:41PM (#36216412)
Sry our backend gpu servers are being upgraded and it caused some problem for our job submission system.

Our slurm is not fixed yet, but I've brought the model back online for now - it will be temporally diabled again when our slurm is fixed.

Gradio does not allow tasks more than a minute, so the demo might fail for long texts.

Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by phillipcarter on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:35PM (#36199865)
> outperforms ChatGPT

Doubt.

I mean, maybe in a while, but it seems like the general trend is that a month or two after these announcements, independent researchers end up finding that the opposite is actually true.

Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by hyluo on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:44PM (#36216462)
The model outputs ChatGPT by connecting to a search engine - it's expected because it is fed with search results. Without search, SAIL-7B does not outperform ChatGPT.

The interesting aspect is that the ChatGPT response quality is not improved with search results, and it can be misled by noisy search.

Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by brianjking on Monday June 05, 2023 @05:35PM (#36204099)
Another model that isn't actually able to be used commercially because of links to LLaMa base weights.
Re:Sail 7B: New Fine Tuned LLM Outperforms ChatGPT and Vicun... by hyluo on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @01:45PM (#36216470)
It is a problem, but the same training set can be used to train commercial models.