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Re:Power outages and sweltering heat in Vietnam, people stru... by reaperducer on Sunday June 04, 2023 @07:57PM (#36190718)
I think this allocation of blame is unfair. I moved from a developing country - the plastic culture originated from the west

He didn't assign blame; you did.

All he did was observe the pretty commonly known fact that plastic pollution is out of control in the region. You're the one who started pointing fingers.

Re:Power outages and sweltering heat in Vietnam, people stru... by ClumsyPilot on Sunday June 04, 2023 @08:25PM (#36190874)
> He didn't assign blame; you did.

Whats this?

> They could easily tell people to cut down their plastic/trash usage...Profit/corruption

I dont think thks would work.

I come from another region with the same problem. I know people who manage local factories that produce food and drink wrapped in single-use practic. They buy machines from Italy, they import bottles, caps, everything. Local suppliers look to what west does and they copy.

Imagine that tomorrow, overnight, US and EU governments clamp down on their companies domestically and stop producing single use plastic. It will be gone from developing world withing a few years.

I think the problem of plastic is problem of industry. It cannot be solved through invividual action. It has to be solved in the factories that produce this crap by the billions.

Re:Power outages and sweltering heat in Vietnam, people stru... by latchkey on Sunday June 04, 2023 @09:49PM (#36191364)
> Imagine that tomorrow, overnight, US and EU governments clamp down on their companies domestically and stop producing single use plastic. It will be gone from developing world withing a few years.

100% it won't change in Vietnam unless the government there does some strict mandates and education. It doesn't matter what the US/EU does. You really have to spend time in the country to get an understanding of how it is literally ingrained in their culture to just dump trash wherever they want and use plastic endlessly. They really don't see the problem with that. Once it gets into the culture, it'll take many generations to extract it.

Re:Power outages and sweltering heat in Vietnam, people stru... by landemva on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:30AM (#36192279)
>> Once it gets into the culture, it'll take many generations to extract it.

I recall a few years ago it took a couple weeks in USA for people to shut themselves into their homes, fear being close to their neighbors, and wear face masks at grocery stores and while driving in their own cars. Sufficient fear will cause mass obeying and hating those who don't obey. It can be done again.

Re:Power outages and sweltering heat in Vietnam, people stru... by latchkey on Monday June 05, 2023 @12:51AM (#36192428)