Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by buildbuildbuild on Sunday June 04, 2023 @12:47AM
(#36183186)
This is a self-custodied light wallet, keys were on user devices. It could have been a weak RNG or due to client side malware, it’s too early to tell.
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Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by friend_and_foe on Sunday June 04, 2023 @01:57AM
(#36183424)
I'm curious about what happened too. Non custodial? Then how? Was the application FOSS? If not, I'd guess they were collecting some kind of data they shouldn't have been.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by scotty79 on Sunday June 04, 2023 @07:34AM
(#36184791)
It's an app on a phone. It's only as self custodied as your front porch is. With entirety of the internet as your neighborhood.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by lxgr on Sunday June 04, 2023 @09:25AM
(#36185418)
Are you implying that the compromise happened due to an OS or app store level exploit/vulnerability?
If not, I don’t see how an app on a phone is worse than on a desktop.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by scotty79 on Sunday June 04, 2023 @12:50PM
(#36187137)
It's worse because people use more phones then desktops, and they commonly use them for payments which makes them juicier target than desktops.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by lxgr on Sunday June 04, 2023 @02:12PM
(#36187943)
So the lesson is to use unpopular, yet still secure (i.e. audited and transparently and competently developed) software/hardware?
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by scotty79 on Monday June 05, 2023 @06:07AM
(#36194377)
Yes.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by lxgr on Monday June 05, 2023 @01:23PM
(#36199662)
Good luck finding something (lasting) checking all the boxes – sounds like an extremely unstable equilibrium to me.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by scotty79 on Monday June 05, 2023 @05:52PM
(#36204416)
It's been surprisingly easy for the
last two decades. Just use about third most popular Linux.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by 29athrowaway on Sunday June 04, 2023 @10:03AM
(#36185691)
So not your keys then. Thanks.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by hackernudes on Sunday June 04, 2023 @10:37AM
(#36185926)
Well not anymore...
I don't get your response, though. It was an app where the keys were "yours". The "not your keys" is about custodial services, which this is not.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by 29athrowaway on Sunday June 04, 2023 @12:15PM
(#36186796)
Well, then how can your coins be stolen without the keys?
If the keys were stolen using a cryptographic trick, how was it done at scale?
It sounds to me like at some moment the keys were exfiltrated.
So "not your keys, not your coins" stands. If you don't have strict control over the keys you don't have strict control over the coins.
Re:Atomic Wallet exploited, users report loss of entire port...
by hackernudes on Saturday June 10, 2023 @02:57PM
(#36273736)
Sounds like you're more advocating for cold storage. You could be right, but even the most secure software wallet is only as secure as the computer it is running on.