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Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by loeg on Friday June 02, 2023 @01:15PM (#36167967)
> I can remember scientists being accused of spreading "misinformation" for proposing that airborne spread best fit the available data.

This is a much lower bar. You can always find a crank on twitter accusing something of being misinformation.

The original claim I responded to was that the medical establishment claimed airborne transmission was impossible. However, the actual take from the medical establishment was significantly less confident of that claim (emphasis added):

> Airborne spread was “not believed to be a major driver of transmission based on available evidence,” the report [from May 2020] stated.

Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by GeekyBear on Friday June 02, 2023 @01:19PM (#36168030)
> The original claim I responded to was that the medical establishment claimed airborne transmission was impossible.

The WHO literally made a blanket statement that Covid was NOT airborne.

> FACT: COVID-19 is NOT airborne.

The CDC also denied airborne spread for quite some time.

>As the pandemic unfolded last year, infectious disease experts warned for months that both the C.D.C. and the World Health Organization were overlooking research that strongly suggested the coronavirus traveled aloft in small, airborne particles. Several scientists on Friday welcomed the agency’s scrapping of the term “close contact,” which they criticized as vague and said did not necessarily capture the nuances of aerosol transmission.

“C.D.C. has now caught up to the latest scientific evidence, and they’ve gotten rid of some old problematic terms and thinking about how transmission occurs,” said Linsey Marr, an aerosol expert at Virginia Tech.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/07/health/coronavirus-airbor...

The CDC's flip flopping on the issue did not inspire confidence.

>CDC reverses again, now says Covid-19 is 'sometimes' airborne

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-reverses-agai...

Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by loeg on Friday June 02, 2023 @01:37PM (#36168254)
The 4-word tweet (from March 2020) is clearly an oversimplification for people who are only willing to read 4 words. They're talking about their (wrong) belief that airborne transmission was not a significant vector, at a population level.

If you read charitably and look at their longer, contemporaneous statements, they say things like airborne spread is possible in some limited situations but not believed to be a significant vector of spread at a population level. (Still wrong, but a lot more nuanced.)

March 2020 was the first month the disease was declared a pandemic; it was very early on. We had a broad call to recognize airborne spread by July. It's worth skimming something like https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid19-developments... .

Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by eastbound on Friday June 02, 2023 @02:03PM (#36168633)
> clearly an oversimplification for people who are only willing to read 4 words

It’s a lie. There are no excuses. It’s false.

Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by fknorangesite on Friday June 02, 2023 @03:11PM (#36169463)
People can be wrong without lying.
Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by eastbound on Friday June 02, 2023 @07:50PM (#36172265)
Authority sources should shut up if they don’t know.

You cannot say “Dreyfus is guilty” if you haven’t studied the subject. If an institution has credit, it’s because they have a proven track of not saying total bullshit.

The same for the president of France who said “Please go to the theaters to fight against the Covid”. He knew it was contagious, so he was giving the order to people to infect themselves, wrapped in a lie.

If they can say the opposite of truth, without having conducted proper studies and acknowledged what was obvious to everyone, then they are directly responsible for harming the public.

The WHO should be dissoluted.

Re:The Explosive Legacy of the Pandemic Hand Sanitizer Boom by GeekyBear on Friday June 02, 2023 @02:03PM (#36168636)
> The 4-word tweet (from March 2020) is clearly an oversimplification for people who are only willing to read 4 words.

I'm not sure why you would make such a misguided claim.

>Two years after the pandemic began, we finally have a good understanding of how COVID-19 is transmitted: some infected people exhale virus in small, invisible particles (aerosols). These do not fall quickly to the ground, but move in the air like cigarette smoke. Other people can get infected when breathing in those aerosols, either in close proximity, in shared room air, or less frequently, at a distance. But the journey to accepting the overwhelming scientific evidence of how COVID-19 spread was far too slow and contentious. Even today, the updated guidance and policies of how to protect ourselves remain haphazardly applied

https://time.com/6162065/covid-19-airborne-transmission-conf...