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Re:Health System in Minnesota Cuts Off Patients with Medical... by nradov on Friday June 02, 2023 @08:30AM (#36164208)
You missed the point. Cancer and heart disease primary kill people when they're already old. Treatment of those diseases, while important and necessary, doesn't impact average life expectancy much either way. Whereas fentanyl overdoses are now the leading cause of death for adults 18 - 45. That has a huge impact on average life expectancy because those people would have otherwise lived many more years.

https://www.gbhoh.com/fentanyl-becomes-leading-cause-of-deat...

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Re:Health System in Minnesota Cuts Off Patients with Medical... by andsoitis on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:46AM (#36165821)
OK, here are the leading causes of dying at various age groups: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/pdf/leading_causes_of_dea... and unintentional injuries comprising: https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/leadingcauses.html

I still fail to see cars and guns being the leading cause of death.

Do you see something I don't?

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Re:Health System in Minnesota Cuts Off Patients with Medical... by nradov on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:57AM (#36166003)
Your information is outdated. The rate of accidental death among younger adults due to opioid poisonings has increased significantly in just the last few years.

https://peterattiamd.com/anthonyhipolito/

https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/202...

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Re:Health System in Minnesota Cuts Off Patients with Medical... by andsoitis on Friday June 02, 2023 @11:28AM (#36166469)
> death among younger adults due to opioid poisonings

The point under debate is guns and car accidents being asserted as the leading cause of death. I continue to assert it is not true.

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Re:Health System in Minnesota Cuts Off Patients with Medical... by shuckles on Friday June 02, 2023 @12:41PM (#36167438)
My primary assertion was that life expectancy does not inform you about the quality of the US medical system. I focused on guns and cars, but adding opioids (and even lifestyle issues like obesity) doesn’t change my argument or the conclusion.
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