Re:What Is the Nature of Consciousness?
by tsimionescu on Friday June 02, 2023 @03:11AM
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Yes, of course. I discover things changing in my body every time I look again. And whenever I interact with the world, I discover it has changed significantly since I last interacted.
Of course, since I can't observe anything except what I'm observing right now, I could conclude that I'm creating those observations. But I have noticed time and time again that the world largely looks like the same whether I observe it or not. Also, occasionally things that I didn't observe suddenly happen to me, in a way which is consistent only with them having originated outside myself (for example, a ball hits me in the back of the head).
Do you perceive the ball hit your head through direct experience? Or is it mediated through the interpretation of the mind?
Re:What Is the Nature of Consciousness?
by tsimionescu on Saturday June 03, 2023 @08:36AM
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This question makes no sense. There is no distinction between and my mind, so experiences of the mind are by definition direct experiences.
Either way, if you're claiming I'm just a figment of your imagination, this conversation really makes very little sense, and of course there is no proof I can bring that would convince you. The existence of a world independent of our own minds is a pre-requisite for any meaningful conversation.
how do you know there is a world outside?
and not phenomena arising within your conscious experience?
if you close your eyes, you will find a consciousness without end
open your eyes
& these very words arise within your conscious experience
and when you close your eyes, only consciousness remains