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Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by qbasic_forever on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:50PM (#36159899)
I've seen chat GPT write terrible code. For simple problem domains where you're coding stuff that's effectively interview questions or basic data handling (like what millions of tutorials describe on the net today) it's fine. But for actually solving novel problems it completely fails. The best way to understand this is the fact that the open AI/chat GPT developers themselves don't use the tech to code itself.

Generative fill is a neat feature for a limited domain. It is not some grand realignment of labor, the truth is there are orders of magnitude more construction workers, dog walkers, baristas, etc. than graphic designers. Generative fill or other related AI tech is useless to most people's work.

Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by ano88888 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:28PM (#36160114)
This is where you're getting it wrong. You're expecting a prefect AI writing perfect code and be able to solve any problem you give it. No, AI cannot do that. Instead, if you use it as a tool to quickly get you up to speed with boilerplate code or research, it can at least double your productivity when you learn how to use it effectively. Dude, unless you're a god-like programmer, you will get behind if you ignore any tool that can improve your productivity, even if it is just a tiny bit per day.
Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by tambourine_man on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:55PM (#36159929)
Right, so we automate away mediocre intelectual jobs and keep only the very top and bottom of the pyramid.

And that’s not a grand realignment of labor and comparable to NFTs?

Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by krainboltgreene on Friday June 02, 2023 @01:32AM (#36161399)
> Right, so we automate away mediocre intelectual jobs and keep only the very top and bottom of the pyramid.

This is not going to happen no matter how much you think it will.

Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by tambourine_man on Friday June 02, 2023 @10:35AM (#36165657)
Care to substantiate that?
Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by krainboltgreene on Friday June 02, 2023 @03:07PM (#36169398)
Substantiate a negative? No.
Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by tambourine_man on Friday June 02, 2023 @06:51PM (#36171864)
Let me make it easier for you:

“This is not going to happen no matter how much you think it will.”

Really? Why do you think so?

Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by logicallee on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:09PM (#36160003)
Do you pay for ChatGPT 4? If so I am puzzled why you say "But for actually solving novel problems it completely fails" as I find it has no problem solving novel problems, better than I would. Could you give an example of a novel problem it completely fails at?
Re:Chief executives cannot shut up about AI by koonsolo on Friday June 02, 2023 @03:45AM (#36162290)
How much coding do you think is "solving novel problems"?

I'm a senior developer and integrated ChatGPT and Github Copilot into my workflow. No more StackOverflow for me, ChatGPT handles that part. And Copilot auto writes a lot of my code, amazingly well for a lesser known language Haxe.

My son recently came to me with a school assignment for his Arduino. As an extra he wanted to play a song through a buzzer, instead of just a beep like the assignment said. Just asked chatGPT to write this for the song Ghost Busters. I know C and C++ but never programmed an Arduino. You know how long it took ChatGPT to write it? About half a minute. You know how much time it would cost me or you?

1. Quickly figure out how Arduino works with the loop, outputs, etc. Does it have a C precompiler? etc.

2. Find the notes of Ghost Busters.

3. Figure out what kind of output is sent to the buzzer. (Solution: it's the frequency)

4. Translate notes to frequencies

5. Put the notes of Ghost Busters into an array, or something like that. How to handle timings and pauses?

6. Write the code to play it.

Well, I can tell you it saved me tons of time. It was faster than typing this comment.

Just dismissing it with "I've seen chat GPT write terrible code" is not so smart in my opinion. But hey, the more programmers think they are too good for ChatGPT and Copilot, the better for developers like me who are already great, and just add some more productivity on top of that.