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Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by hirundo on Thursday June 01, 2023 @07:55PM (#36159080)
There's more to a job than the salary, and it can be reasonable for a company to leave salary ambiguous in order to make that sales pitch. Sometimes it's half the company; sometimes it's a set of steak knives. And it's reasonable for an applicant to decide that they're all about the salary and don't want to waste time on the sales pitch, and move on.
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by VoodooJuJu on Thursday June 01, 2023 @07:57PM (#36159107)
For the working class (most applicants), we're here just for the salary. We're not here for prestige, or asslicking, or passion. We're here to put food on the table and to potentially build for our children a future where they don't have to sell their time for money.
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by throw9away6 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @08:27PM (#36159311)
Are you the person on the dating site that refuses to post a photo as well?
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by hirundo on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:36PM (#36159806)
Exactly. Some of us are ugly but still have a hope when face to face. That ambiguity gives us a chance at being a contender. Is that unreasonable for an ugly person?

I think its not, and its also reasonable for someone else to think "no picture, they're probably ugly, I'll pass."

Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by 000ooo000 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:44PM (#36159860)
I think it might be a mistake to conflate business ethics with personal ethics. I have sympathy for individuals who through no fault of their own struggle in the dating scene; I have no sympathy for corporate entities in any regard.
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by throw9away6 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:48PM (#36160259)
Very few people struggle with dating through no fault of their own. Most people have actionable things that they can do to get a date just like most can find a job. But not everyone can get to the level of dating models or working at FANG companies. That requires done combination hard work and natural gift.

If you don’t grind leetcode you won’t get that fang job, if you don’t grind social skills and status you won’t get that hot date.

Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by throw9away6 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:43PM (#36160226)
The sometimes you can win on the face to face just like sometimes you can hire below market rates, but you are just wasting time on a site where other people do post photos and a high initial investment is required
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by potsandpans on Thursday June 01, 2023 @08:23PM (#36159278)
idk what you're talking about, I'm here to get paid.
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by austinshea on Thursday June 01, 2023 @08:43PM (#36159389)
I can agree that there's more to a job than the salary, and it's totally cool to negotiate.

When you make the salary ambiguous in order to make your sales pitch, you are being unreasonable.

Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by 000ooo000 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:40PM (#36159829)
"There's more to a job than the salary" is just rhetoric from those trying to justify bad salaries, often by implying intangibles are suitable substitutes for money.

Imagine a candidate being so coy regarding their skillset. Hi, I'd like a job. Yes I know some programming, a good amount, don't worry about that.. but let's talk about my sense of humour. Would your business benefit from daily jokes? No? Ok what about my haircut, surely having this haircut in the office all day would be appealing? How about monthly I bring in some muffins my wife made?

Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by jcpsimmons on Thursday June 01, 2023 @09:43PM (#36159852)
This is a real “drink the kool aid” take.
Re:No salary wastes everyone's time by danwee on Friday June 02, 2023 @05:32AM (#36163036)
> There's more to a job than the salary

That only works for people who are earning a lot. I mean, for SV engineers there's probably a big difference between company A paying $350K/year with 10 days of vacation per year, and company B paying $300K/year with 30 days of vacation per year (I bet most would apply for company B, because the +$50K is not such a big difference).

For the rest of the engineers in the world (99% of us), a salary of $80K/year vs $130K/year is big difference and I don't know who would go for a job that pays $50K less no matter the other perks (which, at least in Europe are quite standard, so there's not much to be picky about)