Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by tayo42 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @01:38PM
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i spent a month in bali after covid, and the ones i talked to were happy to have tourists back. i heard miserable stories from selling everything, going back to farming to survive, personal businesses gone, pets dying because they couldn't take care of them. You cant make generalizations about what people want and don't want. its more complex then that.
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Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by witchesindublin on Thursday June 01, 2023 @01:44PM
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South East Asia has been against long term tourists for many years now. They want all the "families" and richer tourists who stay for a few days in expensive hotels that hire lots of local workers.
Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by bigbillheck on Thursday June 01, 2023 @01:51PM
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My dad retired to Thailand 20 years ago and until he got too sick to take care of himself had no problems with any of it. (And after he got sick and before he passed, the home we managed to get him placed in helped him get a 'humanitarian exemption' to being deported for visa crimes).
Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by witchesindublin on Thursday June 01, 2023 @02:07PM
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They aren't going to kick out elderly tourists who have been there for years, but it is a new move to encourage wealthier tourists that contribute more to jobs and the wider economy. South East Asia also know that they can't maintain the low cost lifestyle on one hand and help their people become richer on the other hand.
Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by ilyt on Thursday June 01, 2023 @04:52PM
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Well, it's no wonder, all the taxes the nomads pay are not paid to them...
Re:‘Tired’, ‘lonely’ and hated by locals: the reality for th...
by arp242 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @06:38PM
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I was in Bali during COVID, got there a Oct 2019 and stayed for two years in total. The reasons for this are very much economical: COVID was pretty brutal for a lot of people who make their living off tourism, as you mentioned.
For many locals it's very much a love-hate relationship. They love the money it brings in and hate pretty much everything else. As soon as you complain about anything – no matter how justified – there's a very real chance you'll be told to fuck off to your own country.
And to be honest I don't blame them either. There really are a whole bunch of right twats in Bali and even I got pretty tired of it quickly. For example the number of white people not wearing a mask in stores etc. was just staggering.