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Re:What If Friendship, Not Marriage, Was at the Center of Life? by ddj231 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:12AM (#36151283)
well the parent to child relationship is not a procreative one. New family units have to form that are procreative or that society will eventually crumble. So it’s not simply subjective. The marriage relationship is procreative and a bedrock for society. I don’t think a society having greater / lesser deference to parents as authority figures takes away from that reality. The parents themselves are in a procreative relationship, and are matriarchs and patriarchs to their line. And clearly the cultures that demand “more” love to parents than a spouse, do not (cannot rightly) demand intimate love. So I would question what “more” love is.
Re:What If Friendship, Not Marriage, Was at the Center of Life? by nkjnlknlk on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:29AM (#36151530)
Why would monogamous relationships be better for society from your perspective? Shouldn't you be arguing that marriage is holding our "new family unit" generation back?
Re:What If Friendship, Not Marriage, Was at the Center of Life? by ddj231 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @12:57PM (#36153998)
Well after procreation comes child rearing. We don’t abandon human children to the wild.

I don’t believe the benefits of monogamous marriage are simply cultural. One would have to pose a better ideal for generating and raising children (because nurturing the next generation is a key part of societal survival) that leads to human flourishing. Is it polygamy, or casual hookups, or absentee fathers?

That said I do think there is more to the marriage relationship than procreation. That 2 people are becoming one. With that comes life long friendship bound by a vow that weathers the storms of life, close intimacy etc.

Re:What If Friendship, Not Marriage, Was at the Center of Life? by tremon on Thursday June 01, 2023 @11:10AM (#36152189)
parent to child relationship is not a procreative one

How so? Are you certain that your parents have no genetic interest in helping you and your offspring thrive?

Re:What If Friendship, Not Marriage, Was at the Center of Life? by ddj231 on Thursday June 01, 2023 @12:01PM (#36153070)
In the sense that there is no non-incestual physical relationship where a parent can generate new offspring with their own offspring