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Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by usrbinbash on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @06:47AM (#36123321)
AI had tangible use cases even when it wasn't developed to the point where it could be applied to those. The problems AI is used to solve, existed before the technology to solve them.

Bitcoin, and all the other "crypto"-tokens, have been looking for a problem to solve for 14 years.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by Arkhaine_kupo on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:22AM (#36123529)
It's the new money, I mean it's an investment, I mean it's a store of value, it is a tech backbone for web 3.0, it is an online deed...

Soon they will find something it is reaaaally good at. Might solve some prime number conjecture by accident if they solve enough sudokus, I mean hashes.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by nwienert on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @02:26PM (#36128560)
You make some great points. Money, investments, banks, programmable money, decentralized organizations, VC where investors don't need accreditation (great for the little guy, bad for the 1%), deeds, remittances, prediction markets. Even capturing a fraction of a fraction of those would be a massive.

I used it quite a few times lately to pay open source contributors in countries that don't have access to Paypal. Paid my rent when Venmo blocked my account temporarily and I had to wait 2 weeks for checks to come in the mail. Used it for Mullvad VPN. Used it to get MJ on a market at far higher quality and better price than locally in Cali. Was super useful.

Paypal in and of itself makes the case, no need for any more.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by Arkhaine_kupo on Thursday June 01, 2023 @10:21AM (#36151401)
> You make some great points.

I am sad to hear that. I was mocking the crypto attempts to legitimise their business proporisiton. All of them have failed, because fundamentally their product does not solve any real problem and once it interacts with the real world it has the same problems as those industries have.

Essentially crypto is like most libertarian communities, they eventually end up inventing regulations, governance and many of the same systems that we currently have, but only after fucking up themselves.

> Even capturing a fraction of a fraction of those would be a massive.

The risk of fraud outstrips any of the advantages, also the risk of lack of regulation on the financial system has brought us great hits like the 2008 banking crisis.

Giving VC access to anyone based on crypto is gonna be a gold rush of fraud, To the Moon tm slogans and other nonsense that will bankrupt as many people as possible before imploding.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by medo-bear on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:21AM (#36123516)
A problem to solve? It is not uncommon for companies to loose over 2% of revenue in banking fees and other enforced banking inefficiencies for transactions that could be handled much more cheaply and efficently with crypto solutions
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by simiones on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:02AM (#36124368)
Yes, because both BTC and ETH are well known for how cheap transactions are.
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by nwienert on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @02:29AM (#36135167)
Typically less than half a percent, often lower.
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by simiones on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @08:56AM (#36137800)
As far as I see, average ETH gas prices have been between ~20 and ~170 USD in the last few months. So, by my understanding (happy to be corrected) for a 1k USD transaction, that's between 2% and 17%. It does get pretty good if you're transacting huge sums. It's abysmal for day-to-day payments.
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by medo-bear on Thursday June 01, 2023 @03:02PM (#36155797)
do you have any experience sending eth?
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by usrbinbash on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @12:30AM (#36134470)
> not uncommon for companies to loose over 2% of revenue in banking fees and other enforced banking inefficiencies

Do you have a source for that number?

And even forgetting that "crypto" comes with both delays and transaction fees, it is also known to be able to lose most of it's value basically overnight. So unless companies want to wake up bankrupt, they'd have to constantly change real money into tokens and back again for their transactions. I wonder how efficient that would be.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by medo-bear on Thursday June 01, 2023 @11:36AM (#36152665)
not more than my experience, which you can trust or not. if it means anything to you my experience relates to banks in the EU. i also deal alot in multiple currencies

crypto delays are minutes to hours. banking delays are a matter of days. just this week i needed to do a significant transfer with my bank. because i did the transfer after 16:30 (in branch!) i needed to wait until 06:00 for the transfer to happen because it was outside transfer hours. if some crypto coin functioned like this it would be laughed at

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by super256 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:58AM (#36123754)
I recently paid a lawyer I had to hire in the US with USDC, rather than paying 40€+ on top of exchange fees for each time I wire him money.

Another use case is domains and servers. When big companies like Porkbun, namecheap and vultr offer their services to be bought via Bitcoin there is probably some demand.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by gtirloni on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @08:21AM (#36123944)
That demand comes from scammers and other fun activities.
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by the_sleaze9 on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:55AM (#36124941)
Source?
Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by andirk on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @08:27PM (#36133040)
I have bought domains with bitcoin when they offer.

I heard someone used USD for a domain, and it turns out USD is used by scammers!

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by gtirloni on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @06:58AM (#36136836)
Was it done out of curiosity a few times or do you use Bitcoin as a currency daily?

Do you know anyone using Bitcoin as a currency daily? How many people do you think are using Bitcoin as a currency for legal business VS the number of people using it to speculate on its price and/or shady activities?

I'd love to be proved wrong but unfortunately neither of us will be able to collect this information so I guess we have to agree to disagree and live inside our little bubbles.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by andirk on Friday June 02, 2023 @07:45PM (#36172236)
I use it as a currency kind of to encourage its use. I have several USD accounts to use depending on the merchant, and a couple BTC accounts as well, and I use the BTC whenever offered. My understanding is not many people use BTC as a purchasing goods currency. BTC buys are probably mostly a speculative bet that BTC will become more used and more useful in the future, just like any stonk albeit weirder.

I am only challenging the usefulness of a statement like "BTC is a criminal currency" that is fully applicable to USD just the same.

Re:Most Bitcoin Inscriptions belong to a single person by usrbinbash on Monday June 05, 2023 @04:05AM (#36193731)
The problem with using BTC or any other "crypto" token as currency, is that it's not "legal tender" [1], aka. something that law guarantees can be used to settle debts with.

For something to be an actual currency in our world, one minimum requirement would for it to be legal tender. "FIAT" money is legal tender. If I have a 100 dollars in USD, and a debt of 50 dollars, I can settle that debt, period.

If I have a 100 dollars in BTC, and a debt of 50 dollars, my ability to settle that debt relies completely on the creditor to accept BTC as a form of payment. Which is entirely up to the creditor, as he isn't legally required to do so, unless we have an enforceable contract that says he has to.

As long as that doesn't change, and given the fact that the entire value backing of crypto tokens is based on the money invested into them, it is highly unlikely to happen in relevant economies, crypto tokens will not become a widespread currency.

A lot of people laud the fact that crypto is free of government influence. The problem with that is, that this government influence is exactly what makes money work as currency.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_tender