News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by lazide on Monday May 29, 2023 @06:09PM (#36118694)
And yet, people know things all the time without evidence and due process.
Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by midoridensha on Monday May 29, 2023 @09:34PM (#36120226)
They think they know. Many times, they're right too, but sometimes they're wrong. That's why evidence and due process are important.
Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by tchaffee on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:30PM (#36132589)
Evidence and due process are important for convicting someone of a crime. You're not violating a basic human right when you deny a credit card transaction. The requirement for evidence and due process should be far lower.
Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by kortilla on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @04:06AM (#36135750)
> You're not violating a basic human right when you deny a credit card transaction.

This doesn’t work when it’s something basic like payment processing. It’s the same reason we decided as a society that people can’t “trust their gut” and deny housing to people based on the color of their skin.

Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by tchaffee on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @09:16AM (#36138011)
Housing is a basic human right. However you can deny housing to someone because they belong to a hate group.

Running a profitable online business is not even a basic human right. No one owes you payment processing. Forcing someone to be a supplier to a hate group violates their basic human rights. If payment processors were discriminating against a protected class such as race or age then you might have a point.

Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by JohnFen on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @02:23PM (#36128524)
The whole reason we have notions of due process and evidence is because people are very commonly wrong when they make these sorts of judgement calls from their gut.
Re:Paper Money Diehards Refuse to Fold by tchaffee on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @07:26PM (#36132552)
We are talking about denying a payment, not throwing someone in jail.