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Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by pjc50 on Monday May 29, 2023 @10:18AM (#36114249)
Technical solution to a social problem. It's not that it's impossible to tell the difference between real and fake, it's that there's no consequences for posting fakes.

(A "solution" which requires end users to authenticate everything themselves is going to have the same level of adoption as pgp, i.e. near zero)

Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by deno on Monday May 29, 2023 @10:25AM (#36114311)
I like a green checkmark next to a photo better than giving more power to whoever you think should be the one determining and enforcing those consequences.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by pjc50 on Monday May 29, 2023 @11:04AM (#36114679)
The consequences I mean are those of the public: proving that the ruling party forged images isn't going to get people to change their votes. You can build the green checkmark, but you can't get people to care about it.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by deno on Monday May 29, 2023 @11:48AM (#36115059)
I see this as completely different issues. Whether AI exists or not this is and was a problem. I’m proposing technical solution because AI fakes are a technical problem. And yeah if people get used to green checkmark you can’t just pump fakes willy nilly, you actually have to put some effort, as before AI. I guess the problem I want to solve is having to live in a world where you have to assume absolutely everything is 100% fake all the time. Because this just puts everyone in their respective truth bubbles even more. Any objectivity we can return to the world is a good thing, IMO.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by anigbrowl on Monday May 29, 2023 @04:55PM (#36118029)
First you have to solve the collect action problem of getting everyone to care about the green checkmark, then you have to solve the new technical problem of just making photographs of high-quality altered images.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by deno on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @09:28AM (#36124638)
I fully acknowledge the second issue, and have offered some potential solutions in my other comments, but I think this can have tremendous impact even if you don’t solve the second issue in first draft.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by account42 on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @11:51AM (#36139755)
It's not even a solution because it completely ignores the analog hole.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by deno on Tuesday June 06, 2023 @05:22PM (#36219289)
I explicitly acknowledge analog hole in my other comments in this thread and suggest advanced sensors (as used in existing biometric authentication) and LIDAR as potential solution. Nevertheless, I think this system can be very useful even without those countermeasures and even if it can still be bypassed with effort. Additionally, if the signatures are securely time-stamped it makes proving which photo is genuine straightforward.
Re:India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arr... by account42 on Wednesday May 31, 2023 @11:51AM (#36139760)
It's not even a solution because it completely ignores the analog hole.

Not to mention the inevitable abuse by whoever controls the keys.