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Re:Venetians are pondering raising their entire city by scotty79 on Monday May 29, 2023 @06:58AM (#36112731)
> corruption does not require a project to actually deliver the promised benefits, or even to be completed at all.

Yes. Corruption only requires for the project to get started. Which is what very few useful projects experience at all. Most never get off the ground. And project getting started raises the probability that the project will be eventually finished at some point.

> And the result is a fatally flawed project that is decades late

But the alternative is not a project done right. It's a project than never got started because no one saw opportunity for personal gain in it. Think of all the places that don't have high speed rail projects, let alone high speed rail.

I know it's easy to lament inefficiencies of corruption and compare effects with other, more successful projects that possibly required less corruption to get going. But the fact is that inefficiencies are not a problem as long as there is money in the pockets. Every corporation operates with huge inefficiencies at every level except for perhaps core revenue centers. And it's fine. The problem is with starting things as an organization with money.

Re:Venetians are pondering raising their entire city by bryananderson on Monday May 29, 2023 @09:52AM (#36113971)
> But the alternative is not a project done right. It's a project than never got started because no one saw opportunity for personal gain in it. Think of all the places that don't have high speed rail projects, let alone high speed rail.

The alternative is absolutely a project done right—that’s why working high speed rail exists all over the world! The US is not the only place that exists.

Re:Venetians are pondering raising their entire city by scotty79 on Monday May 29, 2023 @05:09PM (#36118132)
> that’s why working high speed rail exists all over the world!

I can assure you that they weren't built corruption free. The US might have worst corruption because it has the most money to bleed off on the side.