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Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by Gareth321 on Sunday May 28, 2023 @03:30PM (#36106966)
Medicine, computers, and building materials for EVs and well insulated homes are also "horrible" for the environment. We gladly make that sacrifice because we're happy with the trade. I understand you aren't, and that's fine.

It should also be noted that not all dairy production is equal. New Zealand, for example, produces milk with a much lower carbon footprint (https://www.dairynz.co.nz/media/5794851/carbon-footprint-of-...). The formula isn't a secret. Grass fed cows produce less methane and CO2. There is also amazing research on reducing methane production by up to 98% by supplementing the diet of cows with seaweed (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-11-30/seaweed-a....).

The point being, advocating for abstention is rarely a winning strategy. Instead we should use technology and policy to improve our production methods. Then we can save the environment and continue to enjoy products we consider to be important to our lifestyles. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by myshpa on Sunday May 28, 2023 @04:13PM (#36107334)
> reducing methane production by up to 98%

The burps are not everything.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23738600/un-fao-meat-dair...

"many peer-reviewed studies, ... put livestock emissions at between 14.5 percent and 19.6 percent of the world’s total"

"... it doesn’t factor in the significant climate benefits we’d get if we freed up some of the land now dedicated to livestock farming and allowed forests to return, unlocking their potential as “carbon sinks” that absorb and sequester greenhouse gases from the air.

Scientists call this the opportunity cost of animal agriculture’s land use. Because animal farming takes up so much land — nearly 40 percent of the planet’s habitable land area — that opportunity cost is massive ...

"One study found that ending meat and dairy production could cancel out emissions from all other industries combined over the next 30 to 50 years."

> we can save the environment and continue to enjoy products we consider to be important to our lifestyles

No, we can't.

Without Changing Diets, Agriculture Alone Could Produce Enough Emissions to Surpass 1.5°C of Global Warming (2018)

https://www.wri.org/insights/without-changing-diets-agricult...

Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by namaria on Sunday May 28, 2023 @04:17PM (#36107363)
Human civilization is pretty horrible for the environment in it's current form. Trying to break it down vertically and pinpointing personal choices on it is an exercise in diversion. We need deep structural changes to how we source energy, how we solve logistics and how we manage labor. Arguing about diet choices or duration of showers is just a way to keep us from tackling what really matters.
Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by tcfhgj on Sunday May 28, 2023 @08:51PM (#36109373)
Diet choices are things that really matter, as you can see in the IPCC report summary
Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by namaria on Monday May 29, 2023 @03:42AM (#36111674)
If most people were willing to change their diets overnight, maybe. Mathematically or statistically, irrelevant when you take into account real human beings. It's as disingenuous as saying "if everyone were nice, Earth would be paradise".
Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by BossingAround on Monday May 29, 2023 @09:37AM (#36113824)
Soon enough, capitalism will force people to change their diets overnight. When 1lb of beef is $30, people will think twice what to eat for diner.

Now, whether it's carbon tax that'll force e.g. beef to go to its true cost, or climate change, that I don't know.

Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by namaria on Tuesday May 30, 2023 @04:34AM (#36122473)
That doesn't sound much like a dietary 'choice' to me. I hope pricing can force the necessary changes in time. Honestly, I fully expect disaster levels sea level rise within my lifetime...
Re:Vitamin D: Potent regulator of dopaminergic neuron differ... by News-Dog on Sunday May 28, 2023 @09:57PM (#36109739)

  'Cows Toilet Trained'