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Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by threeseed on Saturday May 27, 2023 @05:24PM (#36098476)
Because nobody e.g. teachers, students, parents wants remote education.

Attending schools is about 50% education, 50% social development.

Many students don't have strong family structures at home and fall behind academically and socially if not attending in person.

Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by ianlevesque on Saturday May 27, 2023 @05:31PM (#36098538)
And for many parents 100% daycare.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by quags on Saturday May 27, 2023 @06:01PM (#36098792)
Perhaps but I’d argue society has moved to where this is better (children must have an education) vs the alternative say getting a job or whatever children did 100 years ago. Also it is being paid for, at least in my area, through quite high property taxes where over 60% go to school. So if the alternative is find day care or educate them myself I expect my taxes to go down where I can use that money for education and day care.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by ianlevesque on Saturday May 27, 2023 @08:22PM (#36099872)
It is better. I wish more parents valued the education more than the experiences of the last couple years revealed they do.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by dennis_jeeves1 on Saturday May 27, 2023 @08:18PM (#36099841)
Meanwhile the parents can devote 100% of their time to their corporate/government overlords. 1984 indeed.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by 2devnull on Sunday May 28, 2023 @09:45AM (#36103950)
Being away from a bad family environment and around non-threatening people for a few hours every day is a huge benefit to many people. But there are also good families, where children thrive and can learn well remotely or through homeschooling. Not all families or students are the same. Indeed the effects of the lockdowns on students prove that. Some kids did well. Those who were already struggling got permanently destroyed (for all intents and purposes) by the lockdowns. Overall the lockdowns were bad because, imo, teachers cannot teach well remotely. Remote learning is not a hard problem. Remote teaching— that’s the problem.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by thx-2718 on Sunday May 28, 2023 @11:16AM (#36104739)
Can't really teach kids that are dead or with teachers that are dead.

Kids can catch up. I think people perceive the less than 2 years of remote school that these kids are irreversibly behind in some huge proportion.

The good benefit of not dying easily outweighs the bad effect of a slightly less optimal education for a brief period of time.

Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by dent9876543 on Sunday May 28, 2023 @11:47AM (#36105081)
That's a gross oversimplification.

It's only close to true for those kids that would have done reasonably anyway.

For those kids that don't have the kind of family environment that will allow them to catch up, it's gonna be a long haul. And they may never get there. That weighs on them for the rest of their time — on the education system, while they're still in it. And it weighs on us, in terms of the resources they take away from other children in education, and then on wider society later in life.

Since the lockdowns, there seems to have been a change in the mindset of some groups — skipping school has been made acceptable. There's a whole bunch of kids that might never return to education as a normal routine. It's likely the hangover will be long and painful for some groups.

Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by base698 on Sunday May 28, 2023 @04:08PM (#36107286)
Reading the teachers subreddit I have seen post after post complaining about letting kids graduate who willfully missed 100-200 days of school. I was not aware it was as large of a problem if the reddit posts are to be believed.
Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by thx-2718 on Monday May 29, 2023 @08:35AM (#36113350)
I think you're really missing the forest for the trees.

Schools aren't the solution to the problem you're describing (children with bad homes) and was a problem before COVID.

Bigger picture is that it is better to keep a larger portion of the population from dying or developing long term complications than slightly (very) protect a few children that are already being abused.

If you're really going to stand by your position then I suggest a reasonable compromise and that is expanding access to licensed professional social workers and community health programs that are there to help parents and children succeed in life.

Re:Our model suggests that global deaths remain 5% above pre... by maeil on Sunday May 28, 2023 @11:44AM (#36105059)
> Because nobody e.g. teachers, students, parents wants remote education.

Plenty of students do. The percentage of parents that does is indeed small, but not trivial either.