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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by rmbyrro on Friday May 26, 2023 @04:39PM (#36089245)
If you care, you'd extrapolate the 2 fatalities to how many would be if bikes were adopted in mass as a means of transport in the Washington state (comparably to cars).

The number of bike trips will not increase by 100x only, certainly by orders of magnitude more than that.

Now multiply the 2 fatalities considering 10,000x or even more bike trips...

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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by otterley on Friday May 26, 2023 @05:01PM (#36089460)
OK, let's take a look at traffic fatalities in Denmark (where bicycles are the primary means of transport in most cities). 25 bicycle fatalities, compared to 64 auto fatalities. It's a much closer margin, but bicycles still win out. The statistics are similar in The Netherlands, where bicycles are equally popular.

Sources:

https://www.dst.dk/en/Statistik/emner/transport/trafikulykke...

https://swov.nl/en/fact-sheet/road-deaths-netherlands

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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by rmbyrro on Friday May 26, 2023 @05:58PM (#36089984)
How many kilometers cycled and driven?

I find it very dubious to assume that cars drive the same amount of kilometers as bikes in the Netherlands...

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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by ehnto on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:49PM (#36091635)
You can measure mixed risk like this in hours exposed, since the outcome of a car and bike trip in Denmark is the same (you get to work or whatever). That will also be fairer to cars, since I suspect there are more deaths per KM for cars.

I ride my bike just shy of 40kms per commute, the same amount I would drive.

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