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Re:Am I the Unethical One? by pclmulqdq on Friday May 26, 2023 @03:00PM (#36088274)
That may be the strawman, but that's not the real reason why people ban calculators when you learn arithmetic. The reason is because learning to manipulate numbers in your head abstracts to other things, like learning to estimate and learning to manipulate equations.

Higher-level math classes usually encourage calculators, and graduate-level math classes will often allow Matlab or Mathematica, as long as you can write a short sentence explaining what the computer algebra system is doing. Where I went to school, this was colloquially called "proof by Steven (Wolfram)."

Re:Am I the Unethical One? by marcus_holmes on Saturday May 27, 2023 @10:04AM (#36094921)
It is a strawman. But I wonder how much better we'd be able to do those other things if we'd been taught to do them with calculators as a tool instead of being forced to do the basic arithmetic in our heads.
Re:Am I the Unethical One? by pclmulqdq on Saturday May 27, 2023 @12:21PM (#36095933)
If you look at the natural experiment on that in society right now, much worse.

Many people today do math only with a calculator and correspondingly lack any sort of numerical reasoning skills whatsoever, despite having learned both mental math and numerical reasoning in school. That growth of innumeracy coincides with the rise of calculators and computers who do it for you.

Also, students are taught in more advanced classes to use calculators (and later computer algebra systems) as a tool. This comes after they have learned the basics, not as a replacement for the basics.

Writing (hello ChatGPT) and math are like muscles: use it or lose it. If you can't do the basic versions, you can't do the harder stuff either.

Re:Am I the Unethical One? by cozzyd on Saturday May 27, 2023 @06:27PM (#36099029)
See also the ability to read a map...