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Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by kelseyfrog on Friday May 26, 2023 @12:51PM (#36086673)
The author seems unaware or at least uninterested in the fact that writing style can have a dramatic impact on output. It's unclear if they wish to not be emailed "by ChatGPT" or if they wish to not have to sift through unnecessary and flowery pose.

I'll spare you the details, but a follow up "That's great. However, please rewrite it in the style of Ernest Hemingway." delivers concise, yet obviously Hemingway-esque emails. Example here: https://pastebin.com/rrkCMd8c It works much better in a two-step process. If "Write this email in the style of Ernest Hemingway" is affixed to the original prompt, the model will generate prose at length, defeating the purpose of being concise.

"That's great. However, please rewrite it in the concise style of Paul Graham," of course, works even better.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by cl42 on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:06PM (#36086878)
I love these multi-step prompt 'hacks'. They very much take advantage of the fact that this is still 'just' a model predicting the next token.

Asking a model to write an email as if it were written by Hemingway requires the model to generate a probability distribution based on the context of an email it needs to write + the style it needs to write it.

In the second approach, you've changed the model weights/inputs by including the email in the context window, so the task of predicting the next token is fundamentally different (and possibly easier) for the model.

It's also why models are sometimes bad at answering a factual question, but good at judging whether their own answer is correct.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by dwighttk on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:52PM (#36087494)
Those hacks are snake oil
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by cl42 on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:24PM (#36087871)
Those hacks are literally how a large language model using a transformer architecture to predict the next token in a sequence works.

They take advantage of how a function choosing a token with maximal probability of appearing works.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by nirvdrum on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:07PM (#36086895)
For me, it's a matter of decency. If you're sending me an email and you're expecting that I'll read it, you're asking me to invest my time (presumably for your benefit). But, you're unwilling to make the same investment with your time by using a tool to simulate a human connection. Having excessively long, unedited prose adds insult to injury since you've doubled down on the decision to spend someone else's time as long as it saves yours.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by JohnFen on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:17PM (#36087040)
I agree entirely. It's the same thing as if someone uses one of those fill-in-the-blanks letter templates. It shows a powerful disrespect for my time.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by flangola7 on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:00PM (#36087614)
This is why you have another AI on the other side that reads it for you.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by sarchertech on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:16PM (#36087025)
It took more work to write the prompt that it would to write the script email.

“Please write a brief email from an employee to a boss giving an update on the api. The email should include 1. The /customers and /address endpoints are complete, but we're still waiting on the architecture team to finish the /orders spec. I'll also be taking Friday off.”

And then you had to adjust it. Just include the information you out into the prompt. If chatgpt can understand it, so can I.

I can’t wait to live in a world where someone enters bullet points into chatgpt to generate an email. Then I have to run the email through chatgpt to transform it back into bullet points.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by kelseyfrog on Friday May 26, 2023 @04:59PM (#36089434)
The point isn't to save time or energy - the point psychological displacement.

Whether we want to admit it or not, not everyone has done the work to handle critique. Some people rely on ChatGPT as a digital scapegoat[1]. Rather than subject their own abilities and decisions to critique, they can launder them through ChatGPT and the psychological distance it affords, allows them to avoid feelings of anxiety - they can blame any negative response on ChatGPT.

Never under estimate the amount of time an energy people will spend on coping mechanisms.

1. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hide-and-seek/201312...

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by sarchertech on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:23PM (#36090962)
I guess maybe someone might use chatgpt for this. But your argument and the 10 year old article defining the term scapegoat is far from convincing me that this is common.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by hedora on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:12PM (#36086958)
The prompt is a much better email than the stuff it produced:

> The /customers and /address endpoints are complete, but we're still waiting on the architecture team to finish the /orders spec. I'll also be taking Friday off.

vs. garbage about gazelles, and the fact that telephones exist.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by kelseyfrog on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:41PM (#36087359)
Right, that's why the PG version (unattached) is better.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by guenthert on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:07PM (#36086901)
If we can pick a style, I would like the one of Mark Twain :)

Although, I don't know how he would feel about being mimic'ed million-fold.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by kelseyfrog on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:18PM (#36087047)
As a matter of note, the Nietzsche version was hilarious(and concise). Reproduced in part here.

> The /customers and /address endpoints: born, alive, breathing. The /orders endpoint: still trapped in the womb of the architecture team's thoughts.

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by kirun on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:25PM (#36087148)
I asked Bing what he would say about it:

> The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter. The artificial race has one really ineffective weapon, and that is imitation. - Mark Twain (paraphrased)

Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by haldean on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:03PM (#36086840)
If I received the second email there I would think the sender was a psychopath
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by gsich on Friday May 26, 2023 @01:08PM (#36086905)
The author is on the receiving end.
Re:Please stop sending me emails written by GPT by progbits on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:09PM (#36087697)
> I'll also be taking Friday off.

Turns into:

> Come Friday, I won't be in. Just one day. Things will continue, though. Any emergencies, I'm a call away.

Off is off, don't call me. Must have been trained on a lot of linkedin posts to volunteer your personal time like this.