> Honestly, as someone who bikes all the time, there's very little difference at 50km/h from the amount of sound coming from an EV vs an ICE.

This is about the acceleration from 0-60 in 3 seconds.

Because of how quietly a fast EV can perform this feat, the argument is that it's encouraging bad/antisocial driving behavior in general.

When an ICE does that sort of 0-60 time the whole neighborhood hears about it. That alone has a moderating effect on most drivers behavior even if their ICE vehicle is capable of it.

you're not silent by the time you hit 60 even if it feels that way in the car. It makes a significant amount of noise at 30mph

> you're not silent by the time you hit 60 even if it feels that way in the car. It makes a significant amount of noise at 30mph

Everything's relative, and relative to an ICE automobile executing a 3-second 0-60 time, an EV doing the same is silent.

Silent enough to make the driver far more likely to do it and convince themselves they're doing it without being antisocial.

But at this point you're just willfully ignoring the correctness of that statement and I'm basically talking to a piece of sheetrock.

and relative to actual silence, it's not silent.