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Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by throwaway2214 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:08PM (#36076950)
this argument is ridiculous in the technological society

every single thing you use has a dependency chain so deep it will make you cry

do you trust the company making the drum on your washing machine? it could kill you. how about the company making the CNC that makes the drum? how about the security of the people making the laptops that made the cad software that made the CNC machine that made the drum for your washing machine, and so on?

how about the bridge you walk on?

Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by advael on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:16PM (#36077048)
Bullshit, full stop.

We live in a society with deep dependency chains on technology we can't possibly understand as individuals, that much is true

But all of those technologies are subject to independent auditing and regulation to make up for that lack of verifiability on an individual level. It is technologically feasible to apply that kind of standard to computer technologies, and in fact I would argue that it's much easier than it is for a lot of other kinds of technology we rely on. That our willingness at a political level to do so is lacking is a corruption issue, not a feasibility one.

Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by throwaway2214 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:19PM (#36077093)
why do you think if we can not understand the dependency chain, the regulators and the auditors can?
Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by vikramkr on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:40PM (#36077324)
Because we don't have the time needed to do the audit nor necessarily the access, while audotrs and regulators have both because if regulatory support and the fact that it's their full time job
Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by advael on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:24PM (#36077151)
The entire point of an independent audit is to throw an expert at the technologies in question at the point of the supply chain they are tasked with auditing in order to better understand it than a layperson could and make an assessment that provides the public with the benefit of their expertise. Not everyone can be an expert on everything, but experts can check each other's work and report on it publicly.
Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by stonogo on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:34PM (#36077256)
The drum on my washing machine is approved by Underwriters Laboratory and regulated by ADA requirements. The bridge I walk on was designed by a licensed professional engineer. Software is just about the only profession left with absolutely no accountability to anyone.
Re:Whistleblower Drops 100 GB of Tesla Secrets to German New... by Finnucane on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:22PM (#36077125)
We don’t trust the drum on the washing machine. That’s why organizations like Underwriters Laboratory exist.