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Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by icedchai on Thursday May 25, 2023 @05:36PM (#36076572)
They don't necessarily need to use a foreign telecom company. They can buy SIP access directly from a US company (Twilio, SignalWire, etc) and use it anywhere.
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by MichaelZuo on Thursday May 25, 2023 @06:33PM (#36077241)
Then that's even easier, because a US company's customer accounts are under the authority of US courts.
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by icedchai on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:03PM (#36078518)
You would think so. However, the number of scam/spam calls I receive daily proves otherwise. When I look up these numbers, they are mostly CLEC or mobile numbers. I assume some of the caller IDs are still spoofed, though I thought STIR/SHAKEN was going to fix that.

Approximately 50% of the calls I receive are through a company identified as "Sinch". Some complaints about them here: https://scammer.info/t/sinch-and-inteliquent/85531

Sadly, scams are big business.

Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by MichaelZuo on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:27AM (#36084608)
The reported names can be entirely spoofed, but the telecom engineers know who they are connected to, and the companies they are connected to know who they are connected to ad infinum.
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by icedchai on Friday May 26, 2023 @12:10PM (#36086029)
What's the incentive to do anything about it?
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by MichaelZuo on Friday May 26, 2023 @12:50PM (#36086657)
Money?
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by icedchai on Friday May 26, 2023 @02:53PM (#36088207)
Without big fines, don't companies make more money not following up on it?

1) VOIP providers get revenue from the customer (scammer.) 2) Upstream telcos are getting paid by the VOIP provider for the numbers, call origination fees, etc. 3) The receiving telcos get some call termination fees.

Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by MichaelZuo on Friday May 26, 2023 @08:34PM (#36091003)
How does this relate to the discussion?

No one outside the telecom's accounting department will have the figures handy to know either way. And the net balance would certainly would be proprietary information that won't be shared on HN in any case.

Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by icedchai on Saturday May 27, 2023 @01:31PM (#36096530)
If there’s no financial incentive for companies to stop this stuff, it won’t happen. That’s how.
Re:Do not call: States sue telecom company over billions of ... by MichaelZuo on Saturday May 27, 2023 @04:11PM (#36097807)
We will never discover whether it's one way or the other via HN comments, so it's an irrelevant point.

It's not even possible to talk about it in any substantive capacity.