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Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by Dwolb on Thursday May 25, 2023 @08:06AM (#36069692)
Agreed.

Another adjacent PoV is improvement, not complete, is the steady state.

What I mean is, throughout our entire schooling career we did work and turned in assignments that got graded. They were done. The work was over.

Our professions aren’t like that. There’s no done. There’s always improvement.

Therefore every piece of criticism, critique, or feedback has some data in it (sometimes layered in poorly worded phrases that can feel mean) on how to get better.

Your goal is to figure out what that data is and whether it’s valid, then act on it.

Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by matwood on Thursday May 25, 2023 @08:13AM (#36069756)
> Therefore every piece of criticism, critique, or feedback has some data in it

Extreme Ownership teaches a mind shift of looking at criticism and thinking of it as 'GOOD'. Criticism is an opportunity to improve.

Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by lazide on Thursday May 25, 2023 @03:44PM (#36075202)
It can be manipulated by bad actors however, keeping someone constantly 'doing' for the other parties benefit and not noticing they never seem to actually get paid for it. It tends to attract NPD folks in particular.

Like anything, it's about balance. Sometimes, it really isn't anything you should be doing to fix (or anything you should change).

Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by reality_inspctr on Thursday May 25, 2023 @08:34AM (#36069953)
it can be helpful, for some, to give up on the notion of retirement altogether.

exist to exist the whole way through. do what you gotta do.

many SV people have probably also seen anecdotal evidence the $B crowd has this mindset. it's the $M crowd sweatin the small stuff.

Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by grugagag on Thursday May 25, 2023 @09:45AM (#36070622)
> it can be helpful, for some, to give up on the notion of retirement altogether.

Yeah, perfect and ready to be exploited with no end in sight.

What are $B and $M crowds? Billionares and millionares? Do you have any personal insight into those or just read about it?

Re:Ask HN: How do you not take criticism of your work person... by maerF0x0 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @11:18AM (#36071843)
$B crowd doesnt think about it because 1) they pay people to do the micro level things (and in a hierarchy of concerns down to the micro) and 2) the micro doesnt move the needle for them.

To use an analogy if you're poor disputing a $2 charge is meaningful because it might double your disposable money. But if you're rich you could absorb 1000x $2 charges per day without even seeing a difference in your first 4 digits of your wealth. (eg 4522188456 squints to the same number as 4522180456)