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Re:Framework Laptop 16 by contrarian1234 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:33AM (#36067341)
I don't understand why they dropped the 3:2 ratio for the larger model.

I thought these are targeted at professionals and not media consumption... I can't see myself going back to 16:9 or 16:10

Just seems like a dumb move. They even seem to have the space with those hideous bezels from 2010. There are tons of similar 16:10 options. It's a saturated market, while there are only a small handful of 16inch 3:2 laptops

- written from a Huawei Matebook 16

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by CrampusDestrus on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:46AM (#36067409)
Who makes 16" 3:2 displays?
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by ztrww on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:49AM (#36067430)
HUAWEI MateBook 16 has one so somebody must make them.
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by peanuty1 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:19AM (#36067587)
Surface Laptop also has a 15" variant.
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by rx_tx on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:46AM (#36067411)
It's possible they weren't able to source 16" panels in that ratio? (at a price that worked). I wouldn't exclude a different ration screen in the future maybe?
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by dankwizard on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:56AM (#36067472)
Is your favourite handheld also the Gameboy Advance?

- Sent from my Icecream maker

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by 2muchcoffeeman on Thursday May 25, 2023 @01:59AM (#36067483)
What makes that screen ratio non professional?
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by bjoli on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:30AM (#36067655)
While I found your question funny, I must say that a 4:3 (or 3:2) ratio allows for better use of screen estate for a lot of work cases. I write a some music arrangements, and being able to view a larger vertical part of a score without having it zoomed out is a big benefit.

I also prefer it for programming. I cap my lines at either GNU lines or 92, meaning horizontal space is never a problem. Getting more vertical space in all Windows when I split my screen in 4 or 1+2 is nice.

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by perardi on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:07AM (#36067522)
A 16:9 screen is too short when working on 16:9 video.

It is really nice to have video span, if not the entire viewport, most of it, with the timeline down below. 16:10 gives you a nice bit of control area.

But 3:2 is even better. Hell, give me a 5:4 screen—I live and die in Figma all day, working on mobile app mockups. Which are very tall, obviously, and get awfully small on these HDTV-ish aspect ratios.

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by Sunspark on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:24AM (#36067616)
You could just rotate your monitor 90 degrees and change the orientation from landscape to portrait in the desktop.
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by bhaney on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:33AM (#36067672)
Somewhat hard to do with a laptop
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by IshKebab on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:36AM (#36067700)
It's a laptop.
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by belltaco on Thursday May 25, 2023 @08:23AM (#36069850)
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by perardi on Friday May 26, 2023 @10:05AM (#36084328)
Except this still isn’t great with a 16:9 aspect ratio…well I guess 9:16 now…display.

It’s still too damn narrow. Yeah, I get plenty of vertical space, but then the Figma chrome gets jammed into teeny little strips along the sidebar.

This solution does better in Adobe applications, where you can break panels out of the parent window…but still, just, no, 16:9, too skinny, too gawky, give me closer to the Golden Ratio.

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by twelvechairs on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:04AM (#36067505)
Writing (including code and word documents) tends to push the vertical bounds of screenspace rather than horizontal.

Media (widescreen cinema) is more horizontal.

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by echelon on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:06AM (#36067516)
Side-by-side is horizontal.

I'd like three terminals or code editor windows side by side. I don't care about the vertical space as much.

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by locusofself on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:15AM (#36067563)
exactly. even just comparing a diff side by side sucks on most laptops.
Re:Framework Laptop 16 by pbmonster on Thursday May 25, 2023 @02:13AM (#36067557)
Their "screen deep dive" [0] mentions this bit:

> There was no existing panel that satisfied all of these needs, so we instead developed a semi-custom LCD display module with BOE, the same panel maker we use for the Framework Laptop 13. The “semi” part is that we customized the backlight for higher brightness and liquid crystal chemistry for better contrast and color gamut while leveraging an existing TFT mask set to avoid needing to pay a few million dollars in tooling fees.

So probably the existing TFT masks all where 16:9 and 16:10?

I personally would also have preferred a higher aspect ratio screen (my favorite laptop is still the IBM Thinkpad X41, which had a 4:3 display), but the other features are probably more important than... 8% more screen height.

[0] https://frame.work/blog/framework-laptop-16-deep-dive---disp...

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by contrarian1234 on Friday May 26, 2023 @04:13AM (#36081439)
It's a good guess but i don't think it's true

Check here under Display

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Huawei-MateBook-16-AMD-Review-...

It's a 16 inch 3:2 display. The Display model is listed as "BOE TV160DKT-NH0 X-Rite i1Pro 2"

Same BOE they claim to be working with

Re:Framework Laptop 16 by xeus2001 on Thursday May 25, 2023 @03:03AM (#36067863)
From the newsletter: "There was no existing panel that satisfied all of these needs, so we instead developed a semi-custom LCD display module with BOE, the same panel maker we use for the Framework Laptop 13. The “semi” part is that we customized the backlight for higher brightness and liquid crystal chemistry for better contrast and color gamut while leveraging an existing TFT mask set to avoid needing to pay a few million dollars in tooling fees." Looks like they had to make some compromise. P.S.: I personally like what they did and especially the resolution of 2k, for me the best compromise between work, video and gaming. I will for sure get one (when they support enough memory for my needs).