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Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by robertlagrant on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @09:35AM (#36057831)
Not if they own the buildings and a WFH culture is massively devaluing them. Their balance sheets will start to look terrible then.
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by Yhippa on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @09:41AM (#36057919)
So un-own the buildings?
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by rxyz on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @09:47AM (#36058004)
Unfortunately, some of them are buying even more. I know Google spent at least 4B on purchasing office real estate in 2022, probably more
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by afavour on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @10:02AM (#36058211)
Sell at a loss, you mean? Why do that when you can just force employees to come back into the office?
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by Workaccount2 on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @10:38AM (#36058760)
Corporate buildings are usually leased, even if it is just one occupant. These lease terms are also usually 10 years.
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by mdgrech23 on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @10:18AM (#36058445)
Seems like a sunk cost fallacy to keep these buildings at this point. For those buildings their heating/cooling/upkeep costs have to be huge. Honestly we should probably have government intervention at this point. Government buys the houses at market values and turns them into affordable housing to counter the housing crisis.
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by nostrademons on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @10:57AM (#36059026)
That also doesn't work. It costs more to convert an office building to housing than it does to tear it down and build new condos in its place, which in turn costs more than just building new condos in a different location. All the plumbing/HVAC/electrical systems need to be redone, you need ventilation isolation, there are different load capacities, etc.

Plus if remote work really takes off, there's no need to crowd all those people into the downtown cores of a few cities anyway. It'd shift housing demand to cheaper, more naturally desirable locations.

What'll happen is that a few firms with ineffective cost structures will go bankrupt, a few major cities will become hollowed-out wastelands the way NYC was in the 1970s or Boston was in the 1950s, and economic growth will pick up in other areas, with new startups and new desirable hubs.

Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by polygamous_bat on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @11:03AM (#36059129)
> It costs more to convert an office building to housing than it does to tear it down and build new condos in its place, which in turn costs more than just building new condos in a different location.

Except in SF or NYC, there aren't that many desirable "different locations" left. Which is why freeing up the poorly used space in city centers can be a net positive for society rather than keeping to maintain these white elephants.

Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by arbitrary_name on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @10:19AM (#36058457)
How does that improve anyone's financial position?

Have you heard of sunk cost fallacy?

Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by afavour on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @11:17AM (#36059317)
I'm suggesting that the execs in charge of these decisions are perhaps not approaching the issue rationally.
Re:Meta has started its latest round of layoffs, focusing on... by robertlagrant on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @11:18AM (#36059324)
Yes, but the existence of a fallacy doesn't mean it applies here. If people can be convinced to go back to the office the company won't lose millions of dollars. Is that a sunk cost then?