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Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by yieldcrv on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:16PM (#36034737)
“The 2 Exaflops Aurora supercomputer is a beast of a machine and the system will be used to power the Aurora genAI AI model.”

and instead of a data center with a distributed load of Nvidia cards, they’re going to do 1 supercomputer? Are these guys intentionally stuck in 2007 or am I missing something

Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by whatshisface on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:22PM (#36034837)
Racks full of GPU nodes are called supercomputers. Supercomputers that ran a single instance of an OS kernel are from even farther back, maybe the last century.
Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by elcomet on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:28PM (#36034930)
It's a datacenter, not a single machine obviously. All "supercomputers" are datacenter today. They can use Nvidia or other processing units, it doesn't really matter.
Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by mirekrusin on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:30PM (#36034962)
...which is equivalent to just 62x H100 GPUs from Nvidia?
Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by AnthonyMouse on Monday May 22, 2023 @06:28PM (#36037490)
One H100 has the same memory bandwidth as the two CPUs in each of the compute nodes. But the supercomputer has >9000 compute nodes, so 62x H100 GPUs might fall short there.

They also might not be measuring the same thing. H100 GPUs have "3026 TFLOPS":

https://www.pny.com/nvidia-h100

...at FP8. 51 TFLOPS at FP32. Supercomputer lists typically use FP64.

Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by godelski on Monday May 22, 2023 @03:55PM (#36035906)
> and instead of a data center with a distributed load of Nvidia cards

You're missing something. Most models are trained on supercomputers. You still use DDP, but you also use Slurm. A supercomputer is just a many node machine, but one where you REALLY care about interconnect. It's why the fabric is one of the big points here. I/O is generally your bottleneck in these systems. Each node should be as powerful of a system as possible because of this.

A datacenter doesn't need a PB/s connection between machines. Your I/O probably isn't your bottleneck and so the tradeoff between PCIe and ethernet (infiniband or whatever) isn't a big deal. Usually because your processes are __independent__ (containers). In a supercomputer, your processes may be parallel, but that doesn't mean they're independent. You'll spend a lot of time writing code to be non-blocking but you're going to have to map reduce at some point.

Re:Intel Announces Aurora GenAI, ChatGPT Competitor with 1T ... by HybridCurve on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:18PM (#36037929)
Aurora Supercomputer:

- 200Gb dragonfly interconnect fabric

- 10,000 nodes with 2xCPU + 6xGPU with unified memory

- 10PB of agreggate RAM

- 230PB of storage

Scale matters in supercomputing. Keeping latency low between everything allows you to solve different classes of problems that gets no speed up benefit by simply offloading compute to nvidia cards. It makes a huge difference how everything is connected.