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Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by whimsicalism on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:43PM (#36033693)
Those two views sound the same? Or am I an idiot?
Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by Attrecomet on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @02:32AM (#36040661)
No. For one, even taken literally the way I wrote it it's about two different sets of people -- the EU must defend their citizens (and residents, BTW), of course!

For another, if one looks past my vague wording, the EU (or at least Germany, which I'm most familiar with) doesn't have the dogma that it's required to set up a world spanning total surveillance state, no compromises beyond the ones absolutely necessary with their own constitution (and even those are followed within a rather "liberal" framework for the three-letter-agencies: they do have all possible data they can get their hands on, just pinky-promise to not abuse it, if US citizens are impacted, in the eyes of secret courts).

Re:Meta Fined $1.3B Over Data Transfers to U.S. by whimsicalism on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @01:47PM (#36048023)
EU does no require a warrant for taking of data from residents [0] by LE. There is little legal protection from LE in Europe, "law enforcement agencies can access the personal data of citizens of any country as long as they are involved in investigating crimes related to the European Union."

[0]: https://law.yale.edu/sites/default/files/area/center/china/d...