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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by elzbardico on Monday May 22, 2023 @09:18AM (#36031062)
The USSR definitely won in Europe, but the US won over the Japanese in the Pacific. Both contributions are equal in terms of importance.
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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by gdy on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:30AM (#36031927)
Not really.

The USSR crushed over 600 thousand strong Quanqtung army in less than a month in Machurian strategic offensive operation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Manchuria

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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by ceejayoz on Monday May 22, 2023 @10:36AM (#36032010)
"began on 9 August 1945"? That's participation medal level shit; it's the day the second nuclear bomb was dropped on Nagasaki.

They waited until Japan was beaten, then grabbed some land.

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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by gdy on Monday May 22, 2023 @11:53AM (#36033019)
By "waited" you surely meant "were busy fighting Nazis".

And let me quote the wiki article I linked to: "The Soviet entry into the war and the defeat of the Kwantung Army was a significant factor in the Japanese government's decision to surrender unconditionall".

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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by ceejayoz on Monday May 22, 2023 @12:49PM (#36033762)
> By "waited" you surely meant "were busy fighting Nazis".

As were the rest of the Allies. Soviet help with Japan probably would've been welcome much earlier.

> And let me quote the wiki article I linked to: "The Soviet entry into the war and the defeat of the Kwantung Army was a significant factor in the Japanese government's decision to surrender unconditionall".

The Japanese home islands were blockaded, constantly bombed, and hit with nuclear weapons after a grinding campaign across the Pacific. They'd lost by the time the Soviets jumped in; they were solidly on that path since 1942.

Soviet entry may've reinforced the hopelessness of continuing, but the Pacific part of WWII was largely fought by the US and UK alone. Contesting "the US won over the Japanese in the Pacific" is a tough path.

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Re:Russia’s army is learning and improving on the battlefield by gdy on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:04PM (#36034601)
Fair enough
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