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Re:Ask HN: Engineering managers, how do you onboard new hires? by jokethrowaway on Monday May 22, 2023 @07:51AM (#36030167)
1 day: - Overview of what they will work on - Give some time to install things and play around 2 day: - Ship your first (small) feature

I'm surprised at seeing how long time to production is. I'd be concerned if they went 2 weeks without shipping anything.

We don't do physical onboarding as no-one is close to any of the offices, but physical get-together are huge in boosting team building. We try to do them at least yearly. Churn is way higher without them (= people don't care about you unless you drink a beer with them)

Re:Ask HN: Engineering managers, how do you onboard new hires? by lunarplague on Monday May 22, 2023 @08:36AM (#36030612)
I'm sorry, maybe I am not as competent as I thought I would be in this life. You want people to ship a brand new feature to your product on their second day?

The kind of people who can onboard and ship a feature in a 48 period turnaround aren't working for your company, they're building startups.

Re:Ask HN: Engineering managers, how do you onboard new hires? by domepro on Monday May 22, 2023 @09:15AM (#36031024)
I think, generally speaking there are a lot of contexts here clashing of what people mean by "feature" and "product". For some, "the product" might be a 30+ year legacy multi million loc codebase getting slowly improved, but still old and inadequate and probably full of technical debt and a lot of domain knowledge needed to navigate.

For others "the product" will be a website with a few 10k loc behind the scenes.

Getting a feature out in those two environments is not the same thing.

Re:Ask HN: Engineering managers, how do you onboard new hires? by lunarplague on Monday May 22, 2023 @11:01AM (#36032321)
Maybe we need to define what a "Feature" is as well. I'm imagining a project that takes more than a day.

Fixing a submit button is not a feature. Perspective is weird though, adding to your point.

Re:Ask HN: Engineering managers, how do you onboard new hires? by ChrisLTD on Monday May 22, 2023 @02:11PM (#36034675)
I'd say they should be shipping code of some kind in the first week.