People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to stop living

Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by mthoms on Sunday May 21, 2023 @11:25AM (#36021910)

I agree that bias is unavoidable. But what we're talking about here is an organization who's entire purpose for existing is to spread conservative views. Furthermore, they blatantly misrepresented the very question asked in the poll. The poll is not about "euthanasia" or "murder", yet the piece implies otherwise.

Since it's emotionally charged and intentionally misleading, it's not really the best source to quote.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by anonymouskimmer on Sunday May 21, 2023 @12:17PM (#36022400)

> it's not really the best source to quote.

Sure. I presumed people could parse out the emotion from such an obviously biased source and focus on the claims. But yes, cherry-picked quotes have a higher likelihood from such a source.

The purpose of a source doesn't matter. Whether or not they are misrepresenting (and what they are misrepresenting) does. ProPublica exists solely "To expose abuses of power and betrayals of the public trust by government, business, and other institutions, using the moral force of investigative journalism to spur reform through the sustained spotlighting of wrongdoing." Yet it does it right, earning a very highly-placed spot on the Ad Fontes Media Bias Chart.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by mthoms on Sunday May 21, 2023 @05:18PM (#36024779)

Just take the "L" :-). You're not going to convince me that it was a worthwhile source, or that the motivations of a speaker don't deserve consideration. Thats plainly absurd. Especially when there's money AND (religious) ideology involved. Sorry.

It's true that no source is perfect - but some sources are much less perfect than others.

Anyways, thanks for the respectful dialogue. Cheers.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by anonymouskimmer on Monday May 22, 2023 @01:13AM (#36027706)

I was thinking of this as a discussion, not something people can win or lose. You having an opposite opinion isn't a loss to me, because we had a good discussion about it.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by mthoms on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @12:13PM (#36046415)

I enjoyed the discussion. If you gave some semblance of acknowledgment that the opinion piece wasn't so great, and those same sentiments could be expressed in a more constructive manner we could have moved on. No worries, though. Cheers.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by anonymouskimmer on Wednesday May 24, 2023 @11:33AM (#36059535)

It was a poor source for the content that I didn't directly quote. I stand by the content that I did quote.

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