People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to stop living

Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by ChrisMarshallNY on Saturday May 20, 2023 @03:01PM (#36014611)

> Or that efforts to build these up at their age are likely to be successful in today's society?

I've seen that happen -literally- hundreds, if not thousands, of times.

It's usually difficult. Like, really difficult, but sometimes, it's well worth the effort. We can often help each other through the rough bits.

I've known a few folks that have done pretty awful things (not getting into detail), and have recovered. Many, work hard to help others to recover.

Love, charity, empathy, and generosity are very powerful.

There was a book written by Richard Adams (Watership Down), called Shardik[0]. It's about redemption. Sort of like the Ashoka myth. Not a unique trope.

It's never too late to recover. In many cases, we may not climb "as high" as we once were, but are much happier. In other cases, it's the opposite.

I know a chap that wanted to put the park bench he slept on, in the garden of his mansion. He couldn't find it, though, as the city had replaced them, by that time.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shardik

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashoka

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by cat_plus_plus on Saturday May 20, 2023 @03:56PM (#36015022)

Oh sure, I know people have rebuilt their lives in 50s. But there is luck and anecdotes and there is prevailing reality. When something is difficult, it requires physical and emotional stamina to overcome. At some point, one may be unable to handle hundreds of rejections after trying to make a single casual friend in a space of years. Not lazy, or insufficiently motivated, just not able to, period. And that assumes, for example, enough financial independence and free time from work to try in the first place. I am not ready to declare people who give up defective or put all the responsibility at their feet, rather than society in general or plain bad luck.

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Re:People who die by suicide want to stop suffering, not to ... by ChrisMarshallNY on Saturday May 20, 2023 @04:40PM (#36015393)

Well, I can only speak for myself, and for those in my peer group, but we regularly help each other to rebuild our lives.

It takes a community. It's not usually something we can do, on our own.

Long story, and not one for press, radio, and film.

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