Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by jonhohle on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:34AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City
Violent crime in NYC dropped precipitously with the “Broken Windows” style of law enforcement during Giuliani’s terms as mayor (1994-2002). The advertised theory was to enforce even small crimes like property owners leaving broken windows unrepaired. Hypothetically, the expectation that laws are being enforced makes people more likely to obey laws at all levels. (jokingly: or maybe people were so busy coming into compliance that they ran out of time for murder.)
There’s obviously debate, criticism, etc., regarding the cause but the theory has been applied to programming among other places with some success.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by hotpotamus on Saturday May 20, 2023 @11:42AM
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Do you think the widespread inability to enforce mask mandates might have lessened peoples' likelihood to obey laws at all levels? Seems a bit analogous to broken windows, no? And timely.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by koolba on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:23PM
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Are you comparing a useless gesture of compliance to theft or willful property damage?
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by hotpotamus on Saturday May 20, 2023 @12:49PM
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The example given was property owners complying with covering broken windows, wasn’t it? Does that seem like a useful gesture of compliance? I believe the idea is more that it sets an example of compliance with authority, but I agree that the whole concepts seems a bit questionable to me.
How were mask mandates useless? The data is in and they did help prevent spread of infection.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by onlypositive on Saturday May 20, 2023 @05:38PM
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No they didn't.
Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by onlypositive on Saturday May 20, 2023 @10:55PM
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Re:FBI Misused Spy Database, FISA Court Says
by csomar on Saturday May 20, 2023 @09:21PM
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Do you have any serious and confirmed study of such a thing? So far it doesn't seem that there is any consensus whether masks are useful or just completely useless.
Do you think the problem is too much transparency? To use your example of the NYPD in the 90's (though I think you've probably got the wrong part of the decade if you're looking for the high water mark of crime), was it notably less corrupt than it is today, or was it just more opaque?
But how did the NYPD deal with crime in the 90's? Wasn't it by the kinds of privacy abuses called out in this report? By shaking down suspected criminals through stop and frisk?