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Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by cies on Saturday May 20, 2023 @06:20AM (#36010667)
Yes. Nginx was forked from Apache by a Russian programmer.

What do you try to imply with your statement?

FLOSS licenses allow software to be used for any purpose. This is a good thing, after seeing lists of "undesireable countries" in EULAs.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by formerly_proven on Saturday May 20, 2023 @06:50AM (#36010781)
> Nginx was forked from Apache

Source? I fail to see any similarities between the two.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by cies on Sunday May 21, 2023 @05:15AM (#36019167)
https://lwn.net/Articles/700060/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=520077

Was it not? I find it hard to find sources, but I realllllly remember it started off as a heavily modified fork of Apache 1.3.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by formerly_proven on Sunday May 21, 2023 @05:36AM (#36019271)
Well both of those are some guy (maybe even the same person...) saying it's an Apache 1.3 fork without copyright notices. On the other hand the full revision history is available and even linked in your first link. Also https://forum.nginx.org/read.php?29,207540,207585

> nginx is not Apache fork. I know well enough Apache 1.3 and I've got some ideas from Apache such as memory pools, configuration methods, processing phases, etc., but there is no line of Apache code. As to OCSP, I'm going to implement it in the next 2.0 version.

edit: Assuming "brianm" is Brian McCallister, he would be a former ASF board member. If "jimjag" is Jim Jagielski, that would be one of the ASF founders.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by slt2021 on Sunday May 21, 2023 @08:54PM (#36026192)
these people are jealous that nginx was acquired by F5 for whopping $670 million, which is more like $800+ mlns in today's money.

not a bad sum for apache 1.3 fork...

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by slt2021 on Sunday May 21, 2023 @02:40PM (#36023623)
Read interview from Sysoev himself about how nginx started

https://xakep.ru/2019/12/13/nginx-interview/

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by wildylion on Tuesday May 23, 2023 @01:23PM (#36047608)
Not forked, but written from scratch and was used at Rambler at the time.

In 2019, Rambler tried to take over Nginx claiming dubious copyright infringement, putting the main author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Sysoev|Igor Sysoev(w)] at risk.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by citrin_ru on Saturday May 20, 2023 @06:59AM (#36010833)
It was not a fork. Some ideas from apache which were good can be found in nginx (as well as many other web-servers), but not the code. Also nginx architecture is fundamentally different from apache of that time (pre event mpm).
Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by cies on Sunday May 21, 2023 @05:13AM (#36019158)
https://lwn.net/Articles/700060/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=520077

Was it not? I find it hard to find sources, but I realllllly remember it started off as a heavily modified fork of Apache 1.3.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by reaperducer on Saturday May 20, 2023 @07:37AM (#36011024)
Yes. Nginx was forked from Apache by a Russian programmer. What do you try to imply with your statement?

I don't know that he was trying to imply anything. But I find it useful information, since there are lots of companies with IT Security departments that will more heavily scrutinized software based on its geographic origin.

When I joined my company, one of the first things I was tasked with was determining the origin of all of the software installed by my predecessor. Some of it got chucked out because it was from certain places.

And this was looong before anyone started dropping bombs in Kyiv.

It's not weird for a company in the UK to favor UK software, or a company in Japan to favor Japanese software, etc.

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by ogurechny on Saturday May 20, 2023 @10:29AM (#36012209)
7 out of 10 tick mark checker specialists chose SolarWinds®™!
Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by slt2021 on Saturday May 20, 2023 @03:27PM (#36014805)
How can you write such nonsense with such a strong convincing tone?

Did you learn from chatGPT how to convicingly tell completely made up and false information?

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by cies on Sunday May 21, 2023 @05:16AM (#36019168)
> How can you write such nonsense with such a strong convincing tone?

What part do you think is wrong? I must say you are quite creative with insults. Great skill!

https://lwn.net/Articles/700060/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=520077

Re:The long life of Apache httpd 2.4 by slt2021 on Sunday May 21, 2023 @02:38PM (#36023614)
Read the interview from Sysoev himself and stop spreading false information

https://xakep.ru/2019/12/13/nginx-interview/