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Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by treis on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:48PM (#36004811)
The original intention of 230 was to insulate providers from the consequences of their user's content. It was never meant to protect them from their own content.

When YouTube says "You may like this terrorist recruitment video" that is undeniably their own speech and shouldn't fall under 230.

Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by elpool2 on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:18PM (#36005149)
I can buy this argument. But in practice how much does it matter? It's not illegal to say "you may like this terrorist recruitment video", especially when its just a generic recommendation algorithm making that recommendation.
Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by r00fus on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:38PM (#36005381)
That “generic recommendation algorithm” is anything but. It’s proprietary and serves their interests and completely opaque. Who knows if it’s an algorithm or actually being hand picked?
Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by treis on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:42PM (#36005432)
It's not illegal but they're civilly liable for the harm they cause.
Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by elpool2 on Friday May 19, 2023 @04:45PM (#36006667)
I don't think so. 230 protects them from liability for the video, and 1A protects them from liability for the recommendation. It would be hard to argue that a recommendation isn't speech.
Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by bcrosby95 on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:26PM (#36005220)
How is this any more their speech than company employed moderators picking and choosing which content users can view or pinning posts?
Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by joshuamorton on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:58PM (#36004936)
That's certainly an interpretation of things, but it runs afoul of an issue where you'd force the Supreme Court to legislate acceptable types of content suggestion.

Is a forum showing you the most upvoted (reddit's /top) or the most recently commented (phpBB), or some combination (HN and reddit's /hot) and saying "you may like {{most popular thing}}" the site's speech or the user's? Is it only the site's speech if the recommendation is personalized? Or if the recommendation is a single item, and not a list?

The court's 230 interpretation today[*] seems to be that suggesting or promoting user-content isn't itself site content, which is fairly in-line with the original intent of the law (that showing, and even ordering user-content isn't site-content).

[*]: Which as others mentioned, is totally independent of this ruling.

Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by SV_BubbleTime on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:55PM (#36004886)
I agree with that.

However... Isn't it a little bit of the same thing when a tech company says "This isn't a illegal in any way, but we're going to use our intentionally ambiguous TOS to remove it".

Aren't the things you say similar to the things you chose to prevent from being said?

Re:US Supreme Court leaves protections for internet companie... by ncallaway on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:01PM (#36004965)
No, because Section 230 specifically and extremely explicitly protects one of those things and not the other.