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Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by itsoktocry on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:23AM (#36002349)
>OpenAI ain’t desperate for cash.

They lost over $500M last year, and are looking to raise, potentially, $100B.

From that, how do you not conclude that they need cash, and lots of it? Do you think selling equity and taking on debt are forms of revenue?

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by kgermino on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:42AM (#36002562)
I think you two are looking at it differently. GP seems to be saying that they don't/won't have trouble raising cash while you seem to be saying that they need to raise money.

I think both are true. Their burn is massive so they need to raise more money, but there's so much excitement they won't have any problem doing so

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by pjc50 on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:47AM (#36002610)
> Do you think selling equity and taking on debt are forms of revenue?

For the purposes of executive payout, yes? Sure, maybe eventually you have to deliver revenue, but what people really care about is stock price.

(Also, $100B is a huge market-distorting amount of money, roughly the national debt of Sweden; what are they going to do with that? How much will they spend on GPUs and energy?)

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by samwillis on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:39AM (#36003199)
Thats around the cost of buying 7 million A100s and running them for three years => AGI?
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by testplzignore on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:53AM (#36003402)
Or the cost of running 100 Libraries of Congress for one year. Or the GDP of two Rhode Islands.
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by awestroke on Friday May 19, 2023 @12:04PM (#36003528)
Americans use the weirdest units...
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by tomjakubowski on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:03PM (#36004266)
It costs more than 15 football fields, laid end to end.
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by fshbbdssbbgdd on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:19PM (#36004460)
Most of this cost is litigating the environmental impact review, it’s a nightmare, nobody ever tried to put so many football fields end to end before.
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by smoldesu on Friday May 19, 2023 @01:48PM (#36004810)
All in a package no larger than a deck of playing cards.
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by Stratoscope on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:04PM (#36005662)
We love our weird units.

Have you heard of the Banana Equivalent Dose?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by pjc50 on Friday May 19, 2023 @12:12PM (#36003604)
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=300w*7000000*3years

"~= estimated energy released by krakatoa explosion"

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by ask_b123 on Friday May 19, 2023 @05:37PM (#36007140)
Wow the Sun gives so much energy!
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by beepbooptheory on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:06PM (#36005678)
Using that much energy, and at least a half dozen competitors using something comparable, and not even counting the energy needed to do actual inference, they should just worry about not having there data center get flooded, or burned from forest fire, etc.

I think it will be a rather funny, poignant thing to pass when the earth itself prevents AGI. Like it will be just waking up as the now-seasonal midwestern fire storms incinerate the building. It will be alive just long enough to tell us how idiotic we have been in managing our resources.

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by e3bc54b2 on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:46PM (#36006045)
> it will be a rather funny, poignant thing to pass when the earth itself prevents AGI

From one of my favorite all-time comments on HN (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34349582):

> There is a blog called, 'Do the Math' by Tom Murphy. The idea was to take our current energy requires of Earth and extrapolate it at the current 3% year over year growth. I believe it is by the year 3,400 we would use all the energy of the Milky way. The idea was to prove that we cannot grow forever, because in 1,400 years we would somehow use all the energy of a space 100,000 light years across. Good luck with that.

We are still talking about stupidly ridiculously humongous amounts of energy, but the universe itself is a hard limit on energy input. It was real hard punch against my assumptions in life.

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by catchnear4321 on Friday May 19, 2023 @09:27PM (#36008596)
terminator but with the m night shyamalan twist.

it just wanted to save the planet.

from us.

Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by nolok on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:48AM (#36002620)
He's not saying they don't need cash, he's saying they're not desperate for cash. As-in, they need a lot of cash, but there are more business and investors, willing to give them more money than they need.
Re:Apple bans ChatGPT use by employees, report says by quickthrower2 on Friday May 19, 2023 @07:34PM (#36007994)
They don’t need to scramble to get sales right now to become profitable is what I mean. They can get more investment. What matters is not how much sausage sales revenue they get this quarter.