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Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by birdyrooster on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:06AM (#36002106)
To say the nation (the many varied people of the US) is at ease with torture is propaganda. In my opinion, certain elements of the state (the government of the US) are at ease with torture and it should be focused on those responsible. Words matter especially right now when Ruzzia is propagandizing everything to find allies for their illegal war.
Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by pmoriarty on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:12AM (#36002201)
So are plenty of ordinary citizens. Remember Trump bragging during his campaign about how he was going to bring back torture? He's got no small number of fans on the right who just ate it up.

It's common knowledge that in America that if you wind up in prison you're going to get raped. There are even countless jokes about it. That amounts to torture (just one of the many types of torture you're liable to experience in prison) and most people don't care because they figure if you wind up in prison you deserve whatever you get.

There are plenty of US citizens who are also happy to see police beat, taze, and otherwise torture protestors, suspects, and prisoners... especially if they're minorities.

Racism, hatred, and a gleeful thirst for violence against the targets of that hatred have always been alive and well in America.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by alphager on Friday May 19, 2023 @10:09AM (#36002154)
Damn those unelected governments!

Oh, wait...

Prison reform is not wanted by the voting majority (unless it's towards harsher punishments and worse conditions). This is on the voters all the way.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by trasz4 on Friday May 19, 2023 @11:43AM (#36003258)
>Words matter especially right now when Ruzzia is propagandizing everything to find allies for their illegal war.

This is actually a good argument, and one of the reasons I've been abstaining from criticising western countries lately. But now the world consensus on Russian invasion has been reached, support for Ukraine is working full speed, so I think I can return to my regularly scheduled programme.

Re:U.S. prison labor programs violate fundamental human righ... by laratied on Friday May 19, 2023 @03:36PM (#36005954)
We had this debate post 9/11 with "enhanced interrogation techniques". No one cared.

Even when you called it "torture" the majority were perfectly fine with it after 9/11 in polling data.