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Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by gavin_gee on Thursday May 18, 2023 @01:12PM (#35991083)
My unscientific burger comparison I think calls BS on the UK prices. Everywhere is expensive now. The problem with the UK is Brexit and a country that went from being very supportive to small business and entrepreneurs to a high tax wasteland of averageness. The UK is the deepest into its decline of any western empire. They are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic. the coronation was the canary for living in the past.

some data:

I looked at two restaurants in central London. Gordan Ramsey (expensive) and honest burgers. Their prices were 13 and 17 GBP for the regular burger. (16 and 21 USD respectively.

Compared to seattle. If I pick Victory Tavern (which is ethan Stowall somewhat equiv to Gordan) thats a $21USD burger. Little woody's is a $7.50 burger but has no sides. add fries for 3.5 and you are at $11.

Seattle is no London. Yet these prices arent miles apart and I would put little woodys as a cheap burger and America is the King of burgers and Beef production so would expect to see cheaper options.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by jldugger on Thursday May 18, 2023 @01:36PM (#35991437)
> America is the King of burgers and Beef production so would expect to see cheaper options.

There are, in McDonalds, Burger King, In-n-out etc. What you are paying for is labor and the fast food places are optimized to reduce that specific cost. The drive thru, for example, increases demand per hour and thus lets kitchens specialize more, and invest in more machinery. Ray Kroc, a salesman, loved the 8 at a time milkshake mixer he was pitching so much he bought a burger chain to put them to use.

But inflation, and labor cost increases in the low end especially, mean prices are up now versus a decade ago.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by gavin_gee on Thursday May 18, 2023 @01:25PM (#35991281)
what I dont think brits really understand about US food prices in restaurants though in recent years in places like seattle is there is a 40% tax on the prices on the menu.

sales tax 10% Living wage tax 10% 20%+ tip expectation

Everyone I talk to from earning $80K a year to $1M a year are not eating out as much as its absurdly expensive.

Just this week. 2 people. dinner at a reasonable seattle restuarant on a tuesday - not high end. 2 mains, shared appetizer and bread and 4 glasses of wine. $300.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by elijaht on Thursday May 18, 2023 @02:54PM (#35992456)
Hmm, even if the restaurant is not high end, those are quite high prices.

Just went out to a restaurant I would describe similarly (https://www.thebutchersdaughter.com/west-village/). Mains are ~$20, appetizers are ~$15, wine is ~$15. Two mains, two apps, four glasses of wine would be $130, with tax and tip is $180. That is still high for me, but that does include four drinks.

Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by jandrewrogers on Thursday May 18, 2023 @03:15PM (#35992713)
That is anomalously expensive for Seattle. I eat out several times a week at nice restaurants and the bill for two virtually never exceeds $200.
Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by therealdrag0 on Friday May 19, 2023 @02:23AM (#35998454)
I’ve had multiple sit down meals with 5 people this week for <200$ in Seattle.
Re:One million cancel broadband as living costs rise (UK) by akiselev on Thursday May 18, 2023 @02:37PM (#35992250)
> Little woody's is a $7.50 burger but has no sides. add fries for 3.5 and you are at $11.

Or better yet, how much is a burger at Dick's now?