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Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by 908B64B197 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @11:17AM (#35989195)
> the density of Zuckerbergs would be a lot lower. They'd still be there, but harder to find.

Interestingly, he enrolled in CS at a time it was believed to be a dead career, with offshoring replacing expensive American engineers.

Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by dragonwriter on Thursday May 18, 2023 @11:22AM (#35989267)
> Interestingly, he enrolled in CS at a time it was believed to be a dead career

Believed by whom? Because AFAIR this was never either the general public sentiment or consistent with BLS projections across the fields that CS feeds into.

Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by 908B64B197 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @11:31AM (#35989428)
> this was never either the general public sentiment

Post dotcom crash in the early 00's? Everyone was saying this was a dead market. Cost-cutting was everywhere.

Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by zorked on Thursday May 18, 2023 @12:11PM (#35990132)
Not sure of what the downvote is about because this is an accurate representation of the post-dotcom time. Enrollments in CS went down, programmers would be offshored to India, nobody wanted to be in tech anymore, unemployment was high. Hard to belive now but people enrolling in CS at this time were mocked and ridiculed.
Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by bcrosby95 on Thursday May 18, 2023 @12:23PM (#35990313)
Yep. I decided upon my major in a similar time period. People thought I was stupid, and my advisor advised me against it. There was a lot of doom and gloom on the internet - way more than any downturn since then. Way more than what you see about ChatGPT replacing programmers.

The options I was weighing were philosophy, math, or CS. I chose CS because I liked building things. I figured I could at least make minimum wage. If it turned out so terrible I could just go back to school for something else.

Much to my relief, my first job out of college paid me $50k.

Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by Mezzie on Thursday May 18, 2023 @03:51PM (#35993194)
Yup. I went off to college right after this and was from a poorer family and that's one reason I opted not to go into CS as a degree despite over a decade of programming/web experience. It wasn't seen as a stable career path and the tech sector had a reputation as a bubble hype machine.

The hilarity is that I went into Linguistics instead, and it turns out that in 2023 that is actually very helpful... I'm not the only one either.

Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by june_twenty on Thursday May 18, 2023 @05:09PM (#35994092)
I was being told that in 2005/2006. Lucky for me I didn't care.. I just wanted to study something to do with computers rather than biology or physics.
Re:Where have all the hackers gone? by themodelplumber on Thursday May 18, 2023 @12:30PM (#35990408)
IIRC this was far from a uniform opinion, because CS feeds careers in so many areas in and out of tech.

I do remember it being a big concern on the part of 9-to-5 coders at large corporations.