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Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by taylodl on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @01:26PM (#35978513)
My term "same people" was referring to the oligarchs. They complain about the invasion from the Southern border, yet they also complain about people "not wanting to work." It's pretty clear they want to keep America white. I think alarm bells are going off for them with the slipping of the white majority in America.
Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by colpabar on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @01:35PM (#35978647)
I was giving you the benefit of the doubt on your first comment, but are you really implying that all american oligarchs are republicans? Sure, some of them are saying the things you mentioned. But it’s ridiculous to ignore all the other ones claiming that not having open borders is a human rights violation.

Both sides play to their audience, but all of it is ultimately about cheap labor.

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by taylodl on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @02:24PM (#35979286)
Are they all Republican? No.

Mostly Republican? Very likely, based off what we know and observe.

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by colpabar on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @02:41PM (#35979483)
> what we know and observe

We're getting pretty in the weeds on this tangent here, so I will just say that it's obvious that "we" "know and observe" different things which is why "we" disagree on certain things. You're not "right", you just believe you are, just like everyone else. Including me!

"what we know and observe" is completely subjective and meaningless on its own.

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by taylodl on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @03:12PM (#35979840)
> You're not "right", you just believe you are, just like everyone else. Including me!

Well then, we're both right! :)