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Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by fileeditview on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @07:48AM (#35973965)
The collapse of civilization is happening since the dawn of civilization.

Jokes aside, I have heard both points made. Yours and the one from the parent poster.

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by CalRobert on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @08:52AM (#35974560)
We had pretty stable temperatures from the dawn of civilization (the end of the last ice age) until about 30 years ago.
Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by themaninthedark on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @10:06AM (#35975384)
From 1300 ~ about 1700 there was a "little" ice age that cuased widespread famine and cultural disruption.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

Yes, the current temperature shift now is greater but it has been ongoing for a much shorter period of time.

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by crooked-v on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @12:52PM (#35978021)
> but it has been ongoing for a much shorter period of time

That's worse, not better! https://xkcd.com/1732/

Re:The U.S. birth rate has fallen by 20% since 2007 by revelio on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @01:10PM (#35978281)
We did not, that's the famously debunked hockey-stick graph claim.

Temperature has varied drastically throughout time. There were Vikings growing barley in Greenland, something completely impossible today. The reason you believe otherwise is because climate doomers lie a lot.