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Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:56AM (#35961215)
I don't believe classical style visual art is overrated. My local art gallery, the AGO, had a large exhibition on Caravaggio a few years ago and I remember seeing the shocked expressions on the majority of the visitors.
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by dagw on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:26AM (#35961578)
had a large exhibition on Caravaggio

What is interesting and telling is that they showed a 'name' like Caravaggio, and not any of the countless contemporary painters who are every bit is technically skilled as Caravaggio was. If the classical visual style was still relevant in itself, every art gallery would be showing off those contemporary artists.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:46AM (#35961837)
Which 'contemporary artists' still paint in the classical style? I can't think of any.
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by dagw on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:57AM (#35961972)
Go visit some of the top art academies around the world. There are still schools out there training people in the classical styles.

The fact that you can't really think of any artists or ever see their work out in the world kind of proves my points.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:59AM (#35962017)
Some of it must have been uploaded onto the internet. Are you sure there aren't any examples you can link?
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by SketchySeaBeast on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:12AM (#35962152)
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/contemporary-classical-painti...

However, I've not got a horse in this "classical is overrated" race.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @11:03AM (#35962827)
Thanks for the link.
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by Bran_son on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:21AM (#35962287)
By this standard, Beethoven's 9th Symphony is also no longer "relevant".

The first to do something are remembered, those who come after must be significantly better or different to be recognized. If someone wants to see Caravaggio's style, they are likely to simply see Caravaggio - it's simply name recognition, nothing to do with the "relevancy" of the style itself, whatever that means (Popularity? Or a self-fulfilling justification for whatever style the art world elite is pushing?)

And there are in fact newer artists with name recognition that painted in a representational style (but not the exact same style), e.g. Dali, Frazetta, Giger, Beksiński.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by dagw on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:32AM (#35962418)
You're missing my point. People like Beethoven because it's Beethoven, they're on the whole not interested in new music that sounds a bit like Beethoven. If you're a contemporary musician and composer you're going to have a very hard time making a successful career out of composing and performing new music in the classical and romantic style.
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by Bran_son on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:39AM (#35962507)
I thought we were talking about relevancy of the style, not how difficult it is to make a living competing with Beethoven. If people still turn up in droves to perform and listen to Beethoven, that seems very "relevant" to me.
Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by pfannkuchen on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:14AM (#35961428)
There is social pressure to have this reaction to appear cultured, which is a bit of a confounder.

Not knocking the skill involved, being a high fidelity human rendering engine takes a lifetime of dedication as well as a base level of natural talent which very few possess.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by MichaelZuo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:48AM (#35961877)
I feel pretty confident in my ability to see through people that are faking it.

Maybe I am exaggerating my perceptiveness, but being shocked by Caravaggio paintings is not at all uncommon.

Re:Artists must be allowed to make bad work by intelVISA on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:03AM (#35962056)
I liken camera to art as (recent) ML is to code.

The machine may threaten to usurp the mass market but the few, skilled organics will always, hopefully, have artisanal works to sell.