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Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by dist-epoch on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @07:55AM (#35960557)
Why would you drink coffee if not for the caffeine.

It's not exactly the most delicious drink.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by quickthrower2 on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:01AM (#35960612)
Have you not had coffee with fresh ground beans less than 4 weeks after roast? If not get to your nearest real coffee shop pronto!
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by prepend on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:25AM (#35960877)
I have and it’s nice.

Would not drink it if not for the caffeine.

The history of coffee is interesting to me. Although I don’t have a link, coffee was introduced to addict populations to facilitate trade. It’s funny that trading companies were key to the adoption of tea and coffee consumptions so they had a commodity that they could trade across the world. It’s kind of like oil in that the world needs lots of it and there’s money to be made in production and transport.

Or it could be that people just really like tea and coffee and the trading companies just met the unrealized need.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by dist-epoch on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:48AM (#35961139)
> addict populations to facilitate trade

That's a bit of a stretch. You could say that about any popular products - smartphones, soap, ...

Some say the industrial revolution was facilitated by the switch of Western people from alcohol based drinks to caffeine based ones.

> Those who drank coffee instead of alcohol began the day alert and stimulated, rather than relaxed and mildly inebriated, and the quality and quantity of their work improved … Western Europe began to emerge from an alcoholic haze that had lasted for centuries.”

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by asah on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:12AM (#35960730)
can confirm. Decent fresh beans are the key.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by astura on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:11AM (#35960713)
I don't understand this - If you don't enjoy the experience of drinking coffee, and just want the caffeine, then why not just take a caffeine pill?
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by kadoban on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:33AM (#35960963)
Caffeine pills it's a bit easy to unconciously take too much and get all jittery, and it's not really spread out enough.

Optimal consumption of caffeine seems to be a decent-sized initial intake, then smaller doses over time to maintain (eg take a few more sips). There's no good way to do that with pills.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by bumby on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:00AM (#35961273)
How confident are you in the dosage in each cup of coffee?
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by kadoban on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:08AM (#35961355)
Fairly confident, within 2x or so.

But it barely matters, it's not like I'd inject the whole cup into my veins and then see what happens.

If the caffeine was too high (within reasonable variations), you'd notice and slow down consumption before it mattered. If it's too low, you can just drink more. You can do it by feel, which is I think what just about everyone does.

Some of it might be placebo, but if so I'm not sure it changes anything really, since the goal is just to feel a certain way anyway.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by dist-epoch on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:44AM (#35961087)
Or you could drink an energy drink/sugar free cola instead.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by xenonite on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @11:19AM (#35963041)
No, the chemical compounds of those can have quite adverse effects. Sweeteners are linked with insuline problems.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by mchannon on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:45AM (#35961097)
It’s the reverse. People wanted decaffeinated coffee and the TCE stayed for the ride.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by mrob on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:00AM (#35961279)
Whole coffee has a well established safety record for long term use. Pure caffeine at the doses coffee drinkers use, less so. There might be other unidentified chemicals in whole coffee that interact with the caffeine in some way to modify its safety.
Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by Hnrobert42 on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @09:14AM (#35961429)
I drink decaf, and I mostly agree with you.

I drink it because when I need caffeine, decaf has enough for me. When younger, I drank it to fit in.

With enough sugar and milk, it tastes great, but so would anything. I am sure high-end coffee is great, but it’s never worth the effort to me, so I don’t know about that.

Re:Widely used chemical strongly linked to Parkinson’s disease by NegativeK on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @10:49AM (#35962655)
It's clearly a matter of opinion.

I've dropped caffeine but still really like good coffee, so I'll occasionally go out and get a cup of decaf.