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Re:European bird populations decrease by a quarter, farming ... by WastingMyTime89 on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @06:08AM (#35959727)
> Instead of boosting their economies by importing stuff from those countries we kill their exports with subsidized local produce and then spend a lot on development aid.

I think a key takeaway from the pandemic is that you don’t want to be reliant of import from strategic ressources and food is priority number one.

European subsidies are mostly going to France which is a huge wheat producer.

Farming is an area where I can predict there are going to be a lot of tension in the EU between ecological ambition and the cold reality of having to feed everyone.

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Re:European bird populations decrease by a quarter, farming ... by ZeroGravitas on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @06:17AM (#35959797)
EU Farming subsidies and ecological ambition are a near perfect fit.

Just politics gets in the way as usual. But as the climate deniers power wanes it's a powerful tool ready to be used for good.

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Re:European bird populations decrease by a quarter, farming ... by psiops on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @07:18AM (#35960220)
It'll be a lot easier to feed everyone if we grow food for humans rather than cattle.
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Re:European bird populations decrease by a quarter, farming ... by mihaic on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @08:49AM (#35961145)
It seems that optimal calorie output from all our available land involves some intermediary animals that eat whatever humans can't eat.

I agree we're raising far too many cattle, but just wanted to point out it's not very simple.

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Re:European bird populations decrease by a quarter, farming ... by aziaziazi on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @11:25AM (#35963117)
Depends how you define « optimum ».

For the GIEC it’s GHG mitigation and the vegan diet beats them all, while « all diets needs to provide full complement of nutritional quality, including micronutrients ».

https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/sites/4/2022/11/SRCC... (Page 488)

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