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Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by betaby on Monday May 15, 2023 @04:20PM (#35953970)
There is nothing to intercept on 2G in Canada and USA, 2G was decommissioned.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by bryancoxwell on Monday May 15, 2023 @04:48PM (#35954280)
These attacks are generally carried out by a “rogue base station” that simulates being a cell tower. It doesn’t require that there be a local 2G infrastructure.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by betaby on Monday May 15, 2023 @05:09PM (#35954517)
SIMs from my two different Canadian operator doesn't allow downgrade to 2G for the home networks.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by sidewndr46 on Monday May 15, 2023 @05:47PM (#35954941)
That's pretty cool, any idea how it works?
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by betaby on Monday May 15, 2023 @06:34PM (#35955425)
Authentication profiles. Basically one can specify on the SIM profile that for the certain PLMN (mobile operator) only certain authentication methods are allowed (2G, 3G, 4G use different auth methods).
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by sidewndr46 on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @02:48PM (#35979547)
that is good. from what i understand we dont have that in the US
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by dataflow on Monday May 15, 2023 @07:10PM (#35955777)
What prevents these from simulating a non-"home" network?
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by kalleboo on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @05:23AM (#35959411)
You could by suddenly roaming when you're in your home country is a massive red flag and even normal people are aware and terrified of roaming fees.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by dataflow on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @05:27AM (#35959444)
Are you sure your information isn't outdated by a decade or two? Providers have free roaming data nowadays, e.g. https://www.t-mobile.com/support/coverage/domestic-roaming-d...
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by betaby on Tuesday May 16, 2023 @12:06PM (#35963804)
...and that also locked to a certain auth profiles in Canada.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by kalleboo on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @09:38PM (#35983297)
Most of the world isn't the U.S. E.g. in the UK operators recently rescinded free roaming in the EU.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by dataflow on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @09:41PM (#35983313)
The EU? Weren't we talking about the US and Canada in [1]?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35953970

Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by kalleboo on Wednesday May 17, 2023 @10:29PM (#35983540)
The decommission of 2G/3G and removal of downgrades applies pretty much everywhere these days (my operator doesn't even allow 3G downgrades on their 5G plans), I read it as just an example rather than starting a very specific conversation.
Re:LTESniffer – An Open-Source LTE Downlink/Uplink Eavesdropper by KirillPanov on Monday May 15, 2023 @05:05PM (#35954479)
That's the towers. All the handsets still support 2G, and will happily let themselves be downgrade-attacked to it.

2G lacks even the most rudimentary authentication, so you don't even have to try to look like a tower once you've done this. Just say you're a tower.