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Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by CyberDildonics on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:12PM (#35932775)
This link says "Matter lighting device" over and over but never says what that means and there are no pictures.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by detaro on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:16PM (#35932818)
Matter is a recent-ish "smart home" protocol: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_(standard)

This apparently allows to have an RPi act like a lamp-type device in that protocol, with control over the GPIOs

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by garphunkle on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:00PM (#35933208)
Matter came around after I left, but I believe it is the same as CHIP: * IEEE 802.15.4 (2.4 GHz PHY/MAC) * 6LowPAN (IPv6 for constrained devies) * Thread (Mesh network layer) * UDP or CoAP (CoAP is like http for connectionless networks)

You need a bridge to connect CHIP to the internet (e.g. Apple Home). It was cool to route IP packets directly to lightbulbs from aws, but we don't bridge the networks in practice and all incoming/outgoing traffic goes through the bridge application.

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by detaro on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:17PM (#35933322)
Matter is the protocol running on top of IP, so it runs over Ethernet in the example (since the Pi doesn't speak 802.15.4)
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by breckenedge on Saturday May 13, 2023 @05:14PM (#35932800)
Matter is the protocol that’s going to replace the vendor-specific protocols for Apple, Amazon and Google smart home devices.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by marketingLizard on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:30PM (#35933402)
What's their objection to using universal, free and open protocols? Just standard lack of options to exploit users?
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by efitz on Saturday May 13, 2023 @06:47PM (#35933556)
Uhh, Matter is that protocol.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by Xelynega on Saturday May 13, 2023 @10:55PM (#35934934)
Eh, matter is the xkcd#927 of "that protocol".

UDMI/DTDL/Watson/matter/ZigBee all try to do "universal device management over a single API", matter is just the latest incarnation.

Matter is already 20gb and suffering from API sprawl before it's even released. I don't think it has much of a future as "that protocol" beyond whatever corporate life support its on.

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by greggsy on Saturday May 13, 2023 @07:18PM (#35933753)
The matter and thread protocols eliminates the walled garden issues that lock you into those ecosystems, and promises greater interoperability.

It’s intended to be universal.

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by manv1 on Saturday May 13, 2023 @07:24PM (#35933796)
Matter will lock you into the ecosystem promoted by Apple and Google instead of the ecosystem promoted by the Z-Wave alliance.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by greggsy on Monday May 15, 2023 @03:54AM (#35945004)
Consumers want support and choice, neither of which are offered in the open ecosystem. Matter bridges the gap across all three big players.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by manv1 on Monday May 15, 2023 @07:10PM (#35955773)
That's a load of bullshit. With Z-Wave I have a pick of over 20-30 vendors. Z-Wave is just as open as Matter. It's just not controlled by Google and/or Apple.
Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by greggsy on Thursday May 18, 2023 @02:16PM (#35991953)
You may have choice, but a vast proportion of the market aren’t even aware of it, and wouldn’t know where to buy it. They see, understand, and seek out the branding for the ecosystem that they use already.

This is unfortunate, as I like free and open as much as the next HN user, but it’s the nature of innovation and socio-technical ecosystems.

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by manv1 on Saturday May 13, 2023 @07:23PM (#35933791)
I suspect it's a combination of NIH and the big players wanting to control the certification process and chip supply.

Z-Wave has been working perfectly fine for years. There have been protocol upgrades, new hardware, a pretty large ecosystem, etc. Zigbee apparently suffers from interop problems.

Re:Matter Raspberry Pi GPIO Commander – Turn Your Pi into a ... by omnicognate on Saturday May 13, 2023 @07:55PM (#35934006)
In my limited understanding there are two levels to it.

At the network level, plain Wi-Fi doesn't really cut it. To get reliable connections with lightbulbs and stuff you need a mesh network where each thing connects to nearby things and they form a network among them. That requires a wireless transport designed for the purpose. Zigbee is one such transport, and Thread (awful name) is a new one. Both are open standards, but the main advantage of Thread is that it doesn't need a central hub. It just needs a "border router" to talk to other networks (if things need to). Thread is based on IPv6.

At the application level, you need a protocol for controlling IoT stuff, that knows about those kinds of devices and allows an application to, for example, tell a lighbulb what colour to be. This has been done with vendor-specific protocols to date, over UDP or HTTP or whatever. Matter (also an awful name) is a new open standard for it. It can work over any IP network, including Thread ones (or WiFi or ethernet or whatever).

So between them, Matter and Thread should provide standards based connectivity and control for IoT devices, and as a key design requirement they should allow it all to work locally, i.e. without the cloud connection so many vendors have forced on people. They seem like Good Things to me.

The above is just what I've picked up and may contain inaccuracies, which I would appreciate being corrected upon.