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Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by r3trohack3r on Saturday May 13, 2023 @01:39PM (#35930708)
> this is beta, install on your own risk, this will void your warranty

I’ve seen an increasing number of products I own prompt me to join a beta program that, if accepted, voids the warranty of the device.

I help them vet early features before the roll them out to all of their users and, in exchange, they… ask me to let them maybe brick my device at my expense?

Who agrees to these terms?

Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by imachine1980_ on Saturday May 13, 2023 @04:45PM (#35932520)
if not maybe expode, whit asus at least you are not safe ¯\_('_')_/¯, but maybe you have your pc back.
Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by Dalewyn on Saturday May 13, 2023 @11:09PM (#35934996)
Just so you know, overclocking also voids warranties regardless of manufacturer or vendor recommendations. This includes AMD EXPO[1][2] and Intel XMP[3][4].

If you want warranty coverage, don't overclock no matter how much the marketing encourages you.

[1]: https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/expo

[2]: Overclocking and/or undervolting AMD processors and memory, including without limitation, altering clock frequencies / multipliers or memory timing / voltage, to operate outside of AMD’s published specifications will void any applicable AMD product warranty, even when enabled via AMD hardware and/or software.

[3]: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memor...

[4]: Altering clock frequency or voltage may damage or reduce the useful life of the processor and other system components, and may reduce system stability and performance. Product warranties may not apply if the processor is operated beyond its specifications. Check with the manufacturers of system and components for additional details.

Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by hashworks on Sunday May 14, 2023 @05:05AM (#35936534)
[2] and [4] sound like manual clock/voltage configurations, not the automatic OC of modern AMD CPUs or included XMP Profiles. Those are configs the manufacturer provided.
Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by Dalewyn on Sunday May 14, 2023 @05:32AM (#35936651)
[2] is explicit, saying "even when enabled via AMD hardware and/or software." If it wasn't clear, it's the footnote in [1].

Overclocking has always voided warranties, it's why overclocking has traditionally been the realm of enthusiasts and tinkerers who generally aren't concerned with reliability, safety, or monetary value and know what they're doing.

The more mundane users really should be made aware that overclocking is tantamount to playing with fire, sometimes literally.

Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by merb on Sunday May 14, 2023 @05:38AM (#35936689)
amd expo is covered by warranty. expo also does not overclock the cpu. that amd expo changed cpu voltage was a decision by asus, not by amd, the asus implementation is basically not up to spec.
Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by Dalewyn on Sunday May 14, 2023 @05:44AM (#35936721)
Overclocking RAM involves overclocking the memory controller which resides in the CPU.

AMD themselves also make it clear that users who overclock "assume all risks and liabilities that may arise out of overclocking and/or undervolting AMD processors" per the footnote on their EXPO page.

Overclocking will void warranties, this is a fact that anyone who wants to overclock has to accept. AMD should be ashamed for hiding the literature behind a hidden footnote, but that doesn't excuse end-user ignorance.

Re:Asus UK PR believes it is ‘legal to buy positive reviews’ by merb on Sunday May 14, 2023 @06:00AM (#35936807)
expo won't void warranty. amd replaces expo'd processors. they make advertisments with expo. in the eu/uk they would not stand a chance to refuse any rma whatsoever when expo was enabled.