Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by bertil on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:41AM
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The appropriate reaction is probably the same as if you hear that a brand of snacks is not legal to sell as food in the EU. You probably want to investigate.
EU is many things and has some wacky laws (check Northern Ireland), but if a digital service is breaking EU law, they are likely doing something you do not want them to do.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by seanmcdirmid on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:49AM
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There are lots of agricultural goods not available in the states that are available in Europe, and vice versa. Few people take that as a signal that there is some danger in those products (well, except those chocolate eggs with toys in them), it’s just different places having different rules.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by bertil on Friday May 12, 2023 @02:59PM
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I can assure you that most Europeans think the reason US meat is not for sale here is because it is unfit for consumption: look at the debate in the UK around “chlorinated chicken” just after Brexit, or hormone beef. For most processed food, the (founded) assumption is that it’s full of HCFS.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by Xcelerate on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:35AM
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This makes complete sense to me. Amazing that a company is getting criticism for not making a product available. One thing I’ve learned from HN over the years is that people are going to be mad and criticize you regardless of what you do, so just do what you want anyway and ignore the criticism.
I really don’t like the way a lot of big corporations are handling things recently (especially with regard to layoffs and RTO), but I’m also not surprised that overly critical feedback by anonymous commenters on HN has little effect on changing people’s minds.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by ghaff on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:55AM
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There is this very strong thread here that a large US company has some moral imperative to offer a (free for now) product/service in the EU by people who presumably would not make the same case for China, much less Russia.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by mellosouls on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:26AM
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No, the imperialistic moralising is thinking a corporation gets to make the rules over democratic institutions.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by carlosjobim on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:40AM
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How do you reason? Google decided to follow the EU rules by not offering the service there.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by _Wintermute on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:32AM
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If you consistently fine a company for breaking your rules, you can't then demand access to their products that might break your rules.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by mellosouls on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:39AM
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Maybe they shouldn't break the rules instead?
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by zwily on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:47AM
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There are a couple ways to do that. One is by not offering the product.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by bioemerl on Friday May 12, 2023 @09:08AM
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The EU is not within their right to regulate products made by Americans companies sold to Americans. If we want to talk imperialism, this is exactly that sort of overreach.
Re:Google Bard blocks all European Union countries
by mellosouls on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:16AM
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That's a related but different point to here, it's not a counter argument.
It’s a free product. Any effort spent making it compliant is an expense not paid for. Any non compliance is a business risk, with a percent of global revenue at stake. Why take that risk for no benefit?
Maybe once they have a revenue model for it and find it profitable things will change. Until then the GDPR is not the essence of all that is good in the world such that only the wicked heathens would dare not pay it homage. That’s imperialistic moralizing of the sort which at this point belongs in the dustbin of history along with Europe’s other collective efforts in the area.