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Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by grey-area on Thursday May 11, 2023 @03:25PM (#35907164)
And if you do hold the private keys to your crypto, all you hold is an IOU from a risky market full of fraud and rug pulls.

Many coins have failed, many more will fail, and many if not all will drop to zero as the mania subsides. When that happens it doesn’t matter where your keys are if the market turns illiquid in seconds during a crash.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by everfree on Thursday May 11, 2023 @04:16PM (#35907813)
You hold "an IOU from a market"? I'm not sure that's how that works.
Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by grey-area on Friday May 12, 2023 @06:02AM (#35914101)
Markets have varying levels of risk.
Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by lesuorac on Thursday May 11, 2023 @04:53PM (#35908232)
I mean it still kind of matters where your keys are if the market turns illiquid. Its the difference between losing an asset and not.

I can definitely see a lot of cryptocurrencies losing a ton of a value but they do have a legitimate use for remittances. If you're transferring $1000 it doesn't matter if you convert it into 1 bitcoin or 100 bitcoins since your wife is cashing it out the next day for 20,000 pesos.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by xk_id on Friday May 12, 2023 @04:01AM (#35913317)
Your argument applies equally to fiat finance too: in case of a catastrophe it all goes to zero or turns illiquid.

The fact is that billions in locked value have accrued securely over the years in battle tested protocols like curve, aave and yearn.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by grey-area on Friday May 12, 2023 @06:04AM (#35914120)
Well that level of risk certainly applies to some risky instruments (say CDOs), but I'd say there is far less risk in VWRL say than speculating on the value of a plethora of currencies which are almost purely vehicles for speculation rather than used for everyday transactions.

Doesn't matter if you own your keys if nobody wants to buy your Crypto/NFT etc.

Re your numbers, I'm afraid I don't trust any of the numbers in this market as none of them are audited.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by xk_id on Friday May 12, 2023 @06:45AM (#35914404)
> I'm afraid I don't trust any of the numbers

You don’t have to. That’s the point. It’s a trustless infrastructure, with public data that anybody can audit. There are countless independent services that are reporting the same numbers, from querying the blockchain data.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by grey-area on Friday May 12, 2023 @08:18AM (#35915104)
Uhm, no, the pricing is mostly provided by exchanges which have been found guilty of wash trades, money printing, front running and every crime in the financial playbook, and most definitely are not audited.

So while the blockchains provide public records of transactions, the prices are not set by the blockchains and participants are anonymous enough to be difficult to track.

Re:IRS Files $44B Claims Against Bankrupt FTX by everfree on Friday May 12, 2023 @10:58AM (#35917246)
The smart-contract exchanges agree on the same prices too, though. They can't lie, because the entire exchange is public record on the blockchain.

Uniswap, Cowswap, Kyber, Balancer, they all agree.