I cited Dr. Mason's talk, and in general I quite like that entire channel, though as it's called "Low carb down under" it's easy to say it's biased, or, as GP said, that I rely on "Youtube influencers".

The panelists on that channel are all doctors and scientists, with as many papers, science and citations you want. I'm not saying they are not biased, but here I am presenting my sources, which are not a sentence from Wikipedia or repeating Pollan's tired quote.

Yet some would want you to believe Big Meat or Big Keto is actually a thing behind doctors trying to reverse their patients' diabetes or atherosclerosis through the reduction of carbohydrates and the increase of natural, unprocessed foods, such as vegetables, animal meat and fats.