When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of your ability to think

Re:When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of... by ly3xqhl8g9 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @04:28AM (#35899400)

Plato gives multiple hints across his works about the esoteric, unwritten teachings [1]. We can only speculate about the content; for me, they were surely tied with the Eleusinian Mysteries [2]: early, myths-driven psychonautics based on ergot.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato%27s_unwritten_doctrines

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries

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Re:When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of... by asimpletune on Thursday May 11, 2023 @05:19AM (#35899742)

I also think he had a bunch written teachings that were intended only for his students. Obviously they’re lost to time.

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Re:When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of... by ly3xqhl8g9 on Thursday May 11, 2023 @05:27AM (#35899785)

With some luck and intelligence maybe we will discover more about the past in the future [1].

[1] https://scrollprize.org

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Re:When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of... by asimpletune on Thursday May 11, 2023 @07:57AM (#35900898)

Yeah, I've been excited about this because we're only about a month away until the ink detection deadline.

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Re:When you lose the ability to write, you also lose some of... by eternalban on Thursday May 11, 2023 @05:24AM (#35899771)

[I snooped a bit: "the mark of a succesful meaning transmission with time-travel in meaning space"]

In the Qur'an there is reference to something called Mantiq-at-Tayr and this is usually translated/understood as "Bird Logic". Because the reference is to 'Solomon' and his declaration to people that he and his father David were "taught Mantiq at'Tayr'" by God. And there is a work by a world class "psychonaut" named Attar of Neishapoor who wrote a book called by the same name and translated as "Conference of the Birds". (Note 'Bird' also means 'flier'. Mantiq can also meen logic.)

So I am certain this refers to esoteric speech and the "birds" in question that had conversations with Solomon were "fliers" (as in practicing psychonaut) and the matter is related to -Godel- and limitations of discerning 'truth' via text.

There is a 'communion in conversation' that is never achieved in text.

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